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[[File:ukwanderer_fountain_dale.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Fountain Dale / [http://ukwanderings.blogspot.dk/2014/03/fountain-dale-and-blidworth.html UK Wanderer].]]<div class="no-img">
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The B-version of the ballad of [[Robin Hood and the Curtal Friar]], from a broadside dated ''c. '' 1660, refers to the friar's place of residence as both "Fountains Abby" and "Fountains Dale".<ref>{{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 161-64. Fountains Abbey: sts. 7, 39. Fountains Dale: sts. 10, 11, 39, 41.</ref> According to Dobson & Taylor, since the early 19th century the Fountains Dale of the ballad has been identified with a wooded area &ndash; one of the few surviving vestiges of [[Sherwood Forest]] &ndash; north of Ravenshead and Blidworth. The name 'Fountain Dale' is first found applied to this area on the Greenwood brothers' 1826 map of Nottinghamshire.<ref>{{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, p. 301, ''s.n.'' '(Fountain Dale)'; {{:Greenwood, Christopher 1826a}}; {{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.</ref> It was earlier known as Langton Lodge.<ref>{{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.</ref> While it is of course possible that the name Fountain Dale as applied to the locality under discussion may have left no (as yet discovered) mark on the records during the period ''c.'' 1660-1825, it is perhaps just as likely that Langton was deliberately renamed in the early 19th century in an attempt to strengthen Nottinghamshire's claim to being the only true home of Robin Hood. [[Fountains Abbey (Ripon)|Fountains Abbey]] is of course in Yorkshire, but with a Fountain Dale in Nottinghamshire the ownership of the story of Robin Hood's famous meeting with the curtal friar could be wrested from the northern neighbours. This of course leaves open the question what prompted the author of the ballad to invent the alternative name "Fountain Dale" for (the area round) [[Fountains Abbey (Ripon)|Fountains Abbey]]. He would, in any case, not have been the first poet in literary history to invent a place-name.
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[[File:ukwanderer_fountain_dale.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Fountain Dale / [http://ukwanderings.blogspot.dk/2014/03/fountain-dale-and-blidworth.html UK Wanderer].]]
 
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The B-version of [[Robin Hood and the Curtal Friar]], from a broadside ballad dated ''c. '' 1660, refers to the friar's place of residence as both "Fountains Abby" and "Fountains Dale".<ref>{{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 161-64. Fountains Abbey: sts. 7, 39. Fountains Dale: sts. 10, 11, 39, 41.</ref> According to Dobson & Taylor, since the early 19th century the Fountains Dale of the ballad has been identified with a wooded area &ndash; one of the few surviving vestiges of [[Sherwood Forest]] &ndash; north of Ravenshead and Blidworth. However, the name Fountain Dale is first found applied to this area on the Greenwood brothers' 1826 map of Nottinghamshire.<ref>{{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, p. 301, ''s.n.'' '(Fountain Dale)'; {{:Greenwood, Christopher 1826a}}; {{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.</ref> It was earlier known as Langton Lodge.<ref>{{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.</ref> While it is of course possible that the name Fountain Dale as applied to the locality under discussion may have left no (as yet discovered) mark on the records during the period ''c.'' 1660-1825, it is perhaps just as likely that Langton was deliberately renamed in the early 19th century in an attempt to strengthen Nottinghamshire's claim to being the only true home of Robin Hood. [[Fountains Abbey (Ripon)|Fountains Abbey]] is of course in Yorkshire, but with a Fountain Dale in Nottinghamshire the ownership of the story of Robin Hood's famous meeting with the curtal friar could be wrested from the northern neighbours. If this seems too fanciful, remember that this was a time when it was fashionable among the well-healed to have designer ruins built in their country parks. This of course leaves open the question what prompted the author of the ballad to invent the alternative name "Fountain Dale" for (the area round) [[Fountains Abbey (Ripon)|Fountains Abbey]]. He would, in any case, not have been the first poet in literary history to invent a place-name.
 
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* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
 
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
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* {{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.
 
* {{:Gover, John Eric Bruce 1940a}}, p. 116.
 
* {{:Greenwood, Christopher 1826a}}. Not seen, but cf. preceding.
 
* {{:Greenwood, Christopher 1826a}}. Not seen, but cf. preceding.
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* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602791#zoom=5&lat=5231&lon=5387&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1885; surveyed 1877-83)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602791#zoom=5&lat=5231&lon=5387&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1885; surveyed 1877-83)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602788#zoom=4&lat=5079&lon=5079&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1900; surveyed 1897-98)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602788#zoom=4&lat=5079&lon=5079&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1900; surveyed 1897-98)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602785#zoom=5&lat=5242&lon=5423&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1920; surveyed 1913)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602785#zoom=5&lat=5242&lon=5423&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (1920; surveyed 1913)]
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602782#zoom=5&lat=5288&lon=5426&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (''c.'' 1949; rev. 1939)].
 
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101602782#zoom=5&lat=5288&lon=5426&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXVIII.SW (''c.'' 1949; rev. 1939)].
=== Background ===
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* {{:Nottingham Wayfarers' Rambling Club 1994a}}, pp. 114-17
 
* [http://ukwanderings.blogspot.dk/2014/03/fountain-dale-and-blidworth.html UK Wanderings: Fountain Dale and Blidworth].
 
* [http://ukwanderings.blogspot.dk/2014/03/fountain-dale-and-blidworth.html UK Wanderings: Fountain Dale and Blidworth].
=== Also see ===
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* [[Fountain Dale place-name cluster]].
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Locality
Coordinate 53.1049, -1.1541
Adm. div. Nottinghamshire
Vicinity 2.2 km NNW of Ravenshead
Type Area
Interest Literary locale
Status Extant
First Record 1826
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Fountain Dale.
Fountain Dale / UK Wanderer.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2016-10-08. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-01-05.

The B-version of the ballad of Robin Hood and the Curtal Friar, from a broadside dated c. 1660, refers to the friar's place of residence as both "Fountains Abby" and "Fountains Dale".[1] According to Dobson & Taylor, since the early 19th century the Fountains Dale of the ballad has been identified with a wooded area – one of the few surviving vestiges of Sherwood Forest – north of Ravenshead and Blidworth. The name 'Fountain Dale' is first found applied to this area on the Greenwood brothers' 1826 map of Nottinghamshire.[2] It was earlier known as Langton Lodge.[3] While it is of course possible that the name Fountain Dale as applied to the locality under discussion may have left no (as yet discovered) mark on the records during the period c. 1660-1825, it is perhaps just as likely that Langton was deliberately renamed in the early 19th century in an attempt to strengthen Nottinghamshire's claim to being the only true home of Robin Hood. Fountains Abbey is of course in Yorkshire, but with a Fountain Dale in Nottinghamshire the ownership of the story of Robin Hood's famous meeting with the curtal friar could be wrested from the northern neighbours. This of course leaves open the question what prompted the author of the ballad to invent the alternative name "Fountain Dale" for (the area round) Fountains Abbey. He would, in any case, not have been the first poet in literary history to invent a place-name.

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