Robin Hood's Cave (Rock Cemetery, Nottingham): Difference between revisions

Locality
Coordinate	52.96554, -1.153434
Adm. div.	Nottinghamshire
Vicinity	On NE edge of Rock Cemetery, Nottingham; on west side of Mansfield Road (A60)
Type	Miscellaneous
Interest	Robin Hood name
Status	Defunct
First Record	1892
A.k.a.	Robin Hoods' Mammoth Cave; Robin Hood's Caves and Stables

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Robin Hood's Caves.

Anonymous. Robin Hood's Caves, Rock Cemetery, Nottingham. '93/5'. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Monochrome picture postcard. 87 x 135 mm.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-13. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-03-22.

Robin Hood's Cave is located at the eastern perimeter of Rock Cemetery in Nottingham, immediately west of Mansfield Road (A60). In the mid-19th century, as the area was being cleared and excavated to establish the cemetery, local clergyman George Oliver – in this very much a child of his time – was convinced that several of the caves found there, including Robin Hood's Cave, were part of an ancient druid temple.^[1] Reality has a habit of being prosaic. The caves were in fact a by-product of mining, during the 18th century and earlier, for sandstone which was ground to yield sand.^[2] Until the cemetery was created, the area where Robin Hood's Cave is located was known as the Ropewalk as rope was made here (see Thomas Moore's painting reproduced below).

In 1892, when the sand mining was long forgotten, the cave and part of the cave system with which it is connected were advertised as "Robin Hood's Mammoth Cave", "one of the grandest sights in England".^[3] At present I do not know if the cave had been connected with, or named after, Robin Hood before that date. It is noted in a recent article by a local historian that the cave "was once known as 'Robin Hood’s Cave or Stables'", and we may conclude, therefore, that the name is now defunct. I have not seen the cave referred to as Robin Hood' Stable elsewhere. As can be seen on the present page, the cave was a popular subject for photographic postcards at the turn of the 20th century.

Gazetteers

Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.

Sources

Waltham, Tony. 'The Sand Mines of Nottingham', Bulletin of the Peak District Mines Historical Society, vol. 12 (1994), pp. 1-11.

Maps

Background

Nottingham Hidden History Team: Rev. George Oliver and Nottingham’s Druid Temple by Frank E. Earp

Also see

Notes

Image gallery

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At or near the cave / Deering, Charles. Nottinghamia Vetus et Nova or an Historical Account of the Ancient and Present State of the Town of Nottingham (Nottingham, 1751), plate facing p. 188.
Robin Hood's Cave / Geograph.
Painting by Thomas Moore, c. 1848, of the area known as the Ropewalk before Rock Cemetery was established / The Paul Nix Collection.
Thoroton, Robert. The Antiquities of Nottinghamshire. 2nd ed. (Nottingham, 1790), vol. I, t.-p.
Anonymous. Robin Hood's Caves, Rock Cemetery, Nottingham. 93/5. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Monochrome picture postcard. 87 x 135 mm / HTN collection.
Anonymous. Robin Hood's Caves, Church Cemetery, Nottingham. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Monochrome picture postcard. 90 x 138 mm / HTN collection.
Anonymous. Nottingham. Robin Hood's Caves ([s.l], [s.d.]). Picture postcard (col.). 89 x 140 mm. / HTN collection.
Anonymous. Robin Hood Caves Rock Cemetery, Nottingham. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Col. picture postcard. 89 x 139 mm / HTN collection.
Anonymous. Robin Hood's Caves, Nottingham. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Col. picture postcard. 87 x 137 mm / HTN collection.
Anonymous. Robin Hood's Cave, Nottingham. [s.n]: [s.l.], [s.d.] Col. picture postcard. 87 x 137 mm / HTN collection.

Nottinghamshire place-names

Place-names

[1] Nottingham Hidden History Team: Rev. George Oliver and Nottingham’s Druid Temple by Frank E. Earp.

[2] Waltham, Tony. 'The Sand Mines of Nottingham', Bulletin of the Peak District Mines Historical Society, vol. 12 (1994), pp. 1-11.

[3] Waltham, Tony. 'The Sand Mines of Nottingham', Bulletin of the Peak District Mines Historical Society, vol. 12 (1994), pp. 1-11, see p. 3.

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+In 1892, when the sand mining was long forgotten, the cave and part of the cave system with which it is connected were advertised as "Robin Hood's Mammoth Cave", "one of the grandest sights in England".<ref>{{:Waltham, Tony 1994a}}, see p. 3.</ref> At present I do not know if the cave had been connected with, or named after, Robin Hood before that date. It is noted in a recent article by a local historian that the cave "was once known as 'Robin Hood’s Cave or Stables'", and we may conclude, therefore, that the name is now defunct. I have not seen the cave referred to as Robin Hood' Stable elsewhere. As can be seen on the present page, the cave was a popular subject for photographic postcards at the turn of the 20th century.<!--== Allusions ==
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 * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
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 * {{:Waltham, Tony 1994a}}.
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 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101603127#zoom=6&lat=1452&lon=5521&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXXVIII.SW (1885; 1878-81)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101603124#zoom=5&lat=1818&lon=5229&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Nottinghamshire'' XXXVIII.SW (1901; 1899)]
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-=== Background ===
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 * [https://nottinghamhiddenhistoryteam.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/rev-george-oliver-and-nottinghams-druid-temple/ Nottingham Hidden History Team: Rev. George Oliver and Nottingham’s Druid Temple] by Frank E. Earp
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