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{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%}}<div class="pnMapLegend">Blue Stone Lane north of Hand Lane junction and south of Syd Brook Lane.</div> | {{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%|enablefullscreen=yes}}<div class="pnMapLegend">Blue Stone Lane north of Hand Lane junction and south of Syd Brook Lane.</div> | ||
[[File:{{#var: | [[File:{{#var:Image}}|thumb|right|500px|Blue Stone Lane north of Hand Lane junction and south of Syd Brook Lane was known as Robinhood Lane in the late 19th century. / Google Earth Street View.]]<div class="no-img"> | ||
<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2013-08-07. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2013-08-07. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p>A stretch of Blue Stone Lane in Mawdesley was known locally as 'Robinhood Lane' in the late 19th century and the early years of the 20th. | ||
== Which lane == | == Which lane == | ||
It is not difficult to see what may have inspired the name. Along this stretch – less than 0.5 km – of road lay no less than four landscape features, artifacts or buildings named after Robin Hood: an [[Robin Hood Inn (Mawdesley)|inn]], a [[Robin Hood Well (Mawdesley)|well]], a [[Robin Hood Cottage (Mawdesley)|cottage]], and a [[Robin Hood's Cross (Mawdesley)|cross.]] The street name never became established in official nomenclature, but it is found in census records from 1881 to 1901. Richard Langford | It is not difficult to see what may have inspired the name. Along this stretch – less than 0.5 km – of road lay no less than four landscape features, artifacts or buildings named after Robin Hood: an [[Robin Hood Inn (Mawdesley)|inn]], a [[Robin Hood Well (Mawdesley)|well]], a [[Robin Hood Cottage (Mawdesley)|cottage]], and a [[Robin Hood's Cross (Mawdesley)|cross.]] The street name never became established in official nomenclature, but it is found in census records from 1881 to 1901. Richard Langford in his excellent blog post on the [[Robin Hood Inn (Mawdesley)|Robin Hood Inn in Mawdesley]] states as fact, but without offering any arguments in support, that the name 'Robin Hood Lane' referred to the current Tincklers Lane.<ref>[http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.]</ref> I feel convinced that he has first-hand knowledge of the district, which I do not, but still I cannot accept his identification of 'Robin Hood Lane' as the full story unless he can produce better evidence than what I have found in the census records. | ||
In the 1881 census,<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116] ( | In the 1881 census,<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116] (£); [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.]</ref> just two households are listed under 'Robinhood Lane': 1) the 'Robinhood Tavern' (i.e. Robin Hood Inn) with innkeeper Thomas Bentham and his dependants, and 2) the basket maker John Halton and family. The latter are not found in the immediate area in earlier or later censuses. We note, however, that the Robin Hood inn is located at Robinhood Lane. Conceivably, therefore, the latter road name may have been applied to the short stretch of Blue Stone Lane that runs east from the inn to the Blue Stone–Tincklers–Tannersmith Lane junction. I have found no other evidence that this could be the case. More light is thrown on the question by comparing data from the 1891 and 1901 census records. | ||
In 1891,<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094] ( | In 1891,<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094] (£); [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.]</ref> the census taker visited Ash Farm and then six other households before reaching the Robin Hood Inn, all on Blue Stone Lane. The maps listed below show that Ash House (or Ash House Farm) and Ash Cottages lay on the east side of Blue Stone Lane, south of Hand Lane. The census taker was therefore walking south to north along Blue Stone Lane. The households he visited there are numbered consecutively 121 (Ash Farm) to 128 (Robin Hood Inn) in the record. The families he listed under Nos. 125 and 126 Blue Stone Lane are the same as those listed in the 1901 census record under Nos. 68 and 69 Robinhood Lane.<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1901 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03940, Image 00101] (£); [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.] The numbers cited are entry numbers, not house numbers.</ref> The latter name was therefore certainly applied to a stretch of Blue Stone Lane south of and including the inn and perhaps also, as we saw above, to the short stretch east of it. Whether any part of Tincklers Lane was considered part of Robinhood Lane is an open question. | ||
== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
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== MS sources == | == MS sources == | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116] ( | * [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116] (£) | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094] ( | ** Also at [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn] | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1901 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03940, Image 00101] ( | * [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094] (£) | ||
** Also at [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn] | |||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist: 1901 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03940, Image 00101] (£) | |||
** Also at [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.] | |||
== Maps == | == Maps == | ||
* 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.12 (''c.'' 1894; rev. ''c.'' 1892-93).] No | * 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.12 (''c.'' 1894; rev. ''c.'' 1892-93).] No copy in NLS | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126519080#zoom=4&lat=10625&lon=14392&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.16 (1894; surveyed 1893).] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126519080#zoom=4&lat=10625&lon=14392&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.16 (1894; surveyed 1893).] | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.6405&lon=-2.7486&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.12 (1910; rev. 1908)] (georeferenced) | * [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.6405&lon=-2.7486&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' LXXVI.12 (1910; rev. 1908)] (georeferenced) | ||
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== Discussion == | == Discussion == | ||
* [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.] | * [http://chorleyinnsandtaverns.blogspot.com/p/mawdesley-robin-hood-inn.html Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.] | ||
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| Locality | |
|---|---|
| Coordinate | Near 53.6392, -2.749 |
| Adm. div. | Lancashire |
| Vicinity | Blue Stone Lane N of Hand Lane junction, S of Syd Brook Lane junction; Mawdesley |
| Type | Thoroughfare |
| Interest | Robin Hood name |
| Status | Defunct |
| First Record | 1881 |
| A.k.a. | Blue Stone Lane |
Blue Stone Lane north of Hand Lane junction and south of Syd Brook Lane.
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2013-08-07. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-13.
A stretch of Blue Stone Lane in Mawdesley was known locally as 'Robinhood Lane' in the late 19th century and the early years of the 20th.Which lane
It is not difficult to see what may have inspired the name. Along this stretch – less than 0.5 km – of road lay no less than four landscape features, artifacts or buildings named after Robin Hood: an inn, a well, a cottage, and a cross. The street name never became established in official nomenclature, but it is found in census records from 1881 to 1901. Richard Langford in his excellent blog post on the Robin Hood Inn in Mawdesley states as fact, but without offering any arguments in support, that the name 'Robin Hood Lane' referred to the current Tincklers Lane.[1] I feel convinced that he has first-hand knowledge of the district, which I do not, but still I cannot accept his identification of 'Robin Hood Lane' as the full story unless he can produce better evidence than what I have found in the census records.
In the 1881 census,[2] just two households are listed under 'Robinhood Lane': 1) the 'Robinhood Tavern' (i.e. Robin Hood Inn) with innkeeper Thomas Bentham and his dependants, and 2) the basket maker John Halton and family. The latter are not found in the immediate area in earlier or later censuses. We note, however, that the Robin Hood inn is located at Robinhood Lane. Conceivably, therefore, the latter road name may have been applied to the short stretch of Blue Stone Lane that runs east from the inn to the Blue Stone–Tincklers–Tannersmith Lane junction. I have found no other evidence that this could be the case. More light is thrown on the question by comparing data from the 1891 and 1901 census records.
In 1891,[3] the census taker visited Ash Farm and then six other households before reaching the Robin Hood Inn, all on Blue Stone Lane. The maps listed below show that Ash House (or Ash House Farm) and Ash Cottages lay on the east side of Blue Stone Lane, south of Hand Lane. The census taker was therefore walking south to north along Blue Stone Lane. The households he visited there are numbered consecutively 121 (Ash Farm) to 128 (Robin Hood Inn) in the record. The families he listed under Nos. 125 and 126 Blue Stone Lane are the same as those listed in the 1901 census record under Nos. 68 and 69 Robinhood Lane.[4] The latter name was therefore certainly applied to a stretch of Blue Stone Lane south of and including the inn and perhaps also, as we saw above, to the short stretch east of it. Whether any part of Tincklers Lane was considered part of Robinhood Lane is an open question.
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 315-19.
MS sources
- Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116 (£)
- Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094 (£)
- Genealogist: 1901 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03940, Image 00101 (£)
Maps
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.12 (c. 1894; rev. c. 1892-93).] No copy in NLS
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.16 (1894; surveyed 1893).
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.12 (1910; rev. 1908) (georeferenced)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.16 (1910; rev. 1908)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.12 (1910; rev. 1908)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.12 (1928; rev. 1926)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.16 (1928; rev. 1926)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI (1847; surveyed 1845-46)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.SE (1894; surveyed 1891-93)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.SE (1911; rev. 1908) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.SE (1911; rev. 1908)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire LXXVI.SE (1929; rev. 1926).
Discussion
Also see
Notes
- ↑ Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.
- ↑ Genealogist: 1881 Census, Lancashire, Piece 04222, Image 00116 (£); Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.
- ↑ Genealogist: 1891 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03427, Image 00094 (£); Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn.
- ↑ Genealogist: 1901 Census, Lancashire, Piece 03940, Image 00101 (£); Chorley's Inns and Taverns: Mawdesley - Robin Hood Inn. The numbers cited are entry numbers, not house numbers.