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{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|&#39;|'}}|controls=type,streetview|typestyle=dropdown|width=34%|enablefullscreen=yes}}<div class="pnMapLegend">The Robin Hood Inn.</div>
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[[File:Rh inn baslow.png|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood Inn, Baslow / [http://robinhoodinnbaslow.co.uk/ The inn's website.]]]<div class="no-img">
[[File:Rh inn baslow.png|thumb|right|500px|The former (?) Robin Hood Bar, Baslow / ]]<div class="no-img">
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<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-07. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p>
The Robin Hood or Robin Hood Inn, which is still found at Chesterfield Road, Baslow, is first recorded on an 1840 1" O.S. map of the area.<ref>{{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. I, p. 42.</ref>
'Robin Hood Bar' was the name of a strip of land between the A619 and Heathy Lea Brook in the hamlet of Robin Hood, Baslow.


The next (possible) record known to IRHB is the 1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell', which lists five plots of land under the collective name of 'Robin Hood Bar', with the duke of Devonshire, i.e. William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire (1790&ndash;1858)<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cavendish,_6th_Duke_of_Devonshire Wikipedia: William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire.]</ref> as landowner and Thomas Savage as occupier:
In the 1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell' are listed five plots of land under the collective name of 'Robin Hood Bar', with the duke of Devonshire, i.e. William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire (1790&ndash;1858)<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cavendish,_6th_Duke_of_Devonshire Wikipedia: William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire.]</ref> as landowner and Thomas Savage as occupier:
* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>432: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre 3 roods and 24 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|1|3|24}} m<sup>2</sup>)
* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>432: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre 3 roods and 24 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|1|3|24}} m<sup>2</sup>)
* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>433: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre and 25 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|1|0|25}} m<sup>2</sup>)
* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>433: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre and 25 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|1|0|25}} m<sup>2</sup>)
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* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>437: state of cultivation: 'Meadow'; area: 2 acre and 7 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|2|0|7}} m<sup>2</sup>).<ref>1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell', at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], piece 08, sub-piece 020, image 009, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required); accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], piece 08, sub-piece 020, sub-image 001, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required).</ref>
* plot <nowiki>#</nowiki>437: state of cultivation: 'Meadow'; area: 2 acre and 7 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|2|0|7}} m<sup>2</sup>).<ref>1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell', at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], piece 08, sub-piece 020, image 009, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required); accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], piece 08, sub-piece 020, sub-image 001, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required).</ref>


In our experience 'Bar' is not an element one would expect to find in the name of a 19th-century public house in a rural area.  
At its closest point this is no more than ''c,'' 60 metres south of the [[Robin Hood Inn (Baslow)|Robin Hood Inn]]. The fact that this area does not include the plot north of the B6050 and the A619 on which the pub is situated, together with the states of cultivation of the plots, argues against the place-name element 'Bar' referring to the public house. It is of course conceivable that Thomas Savage, the occupier of these plots, was also the publican at the Robin Hood and that the strip of land acquired its name through its indirect connection with the public house. However, in our experience this would be unusual just as one would not expect a country pub to be referred to as a 'Bar' at this time.  
The pub also figures on 6" maps from 1899 and 1923 (see Maps section below). It evidently lent its name to the [[Robin Hood (Baslow)|hamlet]] that grew up around it.
 
It evidently lent its name to the [[Robin Hood (Baslow)|hamlet]] that grew up around it.
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== Gazetteers ==
== Gazetteers ==
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* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341328#zoom=6&lat=9043&lon=6103&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Derbyshire'' XXIV (1923; rev. 1919&ndash;20)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341328#zoom=6&lat=9043&lon=6103&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Derbyshire'' XXIV (1923; rev. 1919&ndash;20)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101600640#zoom=5&lat=4934&lon=6046&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Derbyshire'' Sheet XXIV.NW (1923; rev. 1919&ndash;20).]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101600640#zoom=5&lat=4934&lon=6046&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Derbyshire'' Sheet XXIV.NW (1923; rev. 1919&ndash;20).]
== Background ==
* {{:Dalrymple-Smith, David 2013a}}.
* [http://baslowhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/enclosure-award-1824.pdf Barslow Enclosure Act 1824]; the enclosure award does not mention Robin Hood as the name of the hamlet or inn.
* [http://robinhoodinnbaslow.co.uk/about-us/ The Robin Hood Inn, Baslow] (pub website).
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cavendish,_6th_Duke_of_Devonshire Wikipedia: William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire.]
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== Notes ==
== Notes ==

Revision as of 23:03, 7 February 2021

Locality
Coordinate 53.2442, -1.5814
Adm. div. Derbyshire
Vicinity South side of A619, hamlet of Robin Hood, Baslow
Type Area
Interest Robin Hood name
Status Defunct?
First Record 1847
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The area formerly (?) known as 'Robin Hood Bar'.
The former (?) Robin Hood Bar, Baslow /

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-07. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-07.

'Robin Hood Bar' was the name of a strip of land between the A619 and Heathy Lea Brook in the hamlet of Robin Hood, Baslow.

In the 1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell' are listed five plots of land under the collective name of 'Robin Hood Bar', with the duke of Devonshire, i.e. William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire (1790–1858)[1] as landowner and Thomas Savage as occupier:

  • plot #432: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre 3 roods and 24 perches (7689.03 m2)
  • plot #433: state of cultivation: 'Rough Pasture'; area: 1 acre and 25 perches (4679.18 m2)
  • plot #434: state of cultivation: 'Oats'; area: 1 acre 2 roods and 26 perches (6727.9 m2)
  • plot #436: state of cultivation: 'Meadow'; area: 1 acre 2 roods and 24 perches (6677.31 m2)
  • plot #437: state of cultivation: 'Meadow'; area: 2 acre and 7 perches (8270.76 m2).[2]

At its closest point this is no more than c, 60 metres south of the Robin Hood Inn. The fact that this area does not include the plot north of the B6050 and the A619 on which the pub is situated, together with the states of cultivation of the plots, argues against the place-name element 'Bar' referring to the public house. It is of course conceivable that Thomas Savage, the occupier of these plots, was also the publican at the Robin Hood and that the strip of land acquired its name through its indirect connection with the public house. However, in our experience this would be unusual just as one would not expect a country pub to be referred to as a 'Bar' at this time.

It evidently lent its name to the hamlet that grew up around it.

Gazetteers

MS sources

  • 1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell', at the Genealogist, piece 08, sub-piece 020, image 009, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required)
  • accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, piece 08, sub-piece 020, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required).

Printed sources

Maps

Also see

Notes

  1. Wikipedia: William Cavendish, 6th Duke of Devonshire.
  2. 1847 tithe award for the 'Township of Baslow in the Parish of Bakewell', at the Genealogist, piece 08, sub-piece 020, image 009, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required); accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, piece 08, sub-piece 020, sub-image 001, #432-34, 436-37 (subscription required).