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{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%}}<div class="pnMapLegend">At or near the site of the Robin Hood.</div> | {{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%|fullscreen=yes}}<div class="pnMapLegend">At or near the site of the Robin Hood.</div> | ||
[[File:{{#var: | [[File:{{#var:Image}}|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood gave way to the brown building to the right / Google Earth Street View.]] | ||
<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2020-09-02. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p><div class="no-img"> | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2020-09-02. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p><div class="no-img"> | ||
The Robin Hood on the High Street in Potters Bar was in existence by 1751 and closed in 1980. | The Robin Hood on the High Street in Potters Bar was in existence by 1751 and closed in 1980. | ||
At the site of the pub was built a warehouse belonging to the now defunct MFI Group furniture retailers.<ref>[https://www.pasttimesproject.co.uk/lsl_browse.php?subsite=ll&story=1071 Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s], by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann | At the site of the pub was built a warehouse belonging to the now defunct MFI Group of furniture retailers.<ref>[https://www.pasttimesproject.co.uk/lsl_browse.php?subsite=ll&story=1071 Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s], by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann; [https://www.facebook.com/groups/133607519998911/permalink/4988507557842192/?comment_id=4992365837456364 Facebook: Potters Bar – a Trip Down Memory Lane; message posted by Neal Cramphorn on 23 Aug. 2020;] also see map in {{:Norrish, Robert 1978a}}, p. [2]. According to [https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/hertfordshire/pottersbar_robinhood.html The Lost Pubs Project: Hertfordshire > Potters Bar > Robin Hood] (retrieved on 2 Sep. 2020), the pub 'closed in the ealry [''sic''] 1970s and has now been demolished, with offices built on the site'. As noted, MFI was a furniture store, and after the chain folded, the premises were taken over by another furniture dealer; '1970s' should no doubt be 1980.</ref> The pub is labelled 'Old Robin Hood Hotel' (or similar) in several of the O.S. maps listed below. The location indicated there translates to something like 39 High Street in modern terms. Part of the pub would have stood on ground currently occupied by an Oliver Matthews furniture shop, part of it would have occupied the parking space along the east wall of the modern building (where a van is turning right in the Google Street View photo below). | ||
Apparently the land on which the pub was later built was granted to one William Swain in 1721; in 1740 a messuage was erected there by William and Mary Stone. By 1751 it had become a licensed house, known as the Robin Hood, according to a brief notice in a newsletter of the Potters Bar & District Historical Society.<ref name="lochistsoc">{{:Anonymous 1998a}}, p. 1.</ref> The Pub Wiki states that the pub was established in 1730,<ref>[https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml Pub Wiki: Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar.]</ref> but since no source is provided for the latter date, it seems safer to accept, provisionally at least, the date cited by the local history society, even if this also does not come with a reference. Being simply the Robin Hood during much of its existence, the name of the pub has varied over the years: | Apparently the land on which the pub was later built was granted to one William Swain in 1721; in 1740 a messuage was erected there by William and Mary Stone. By 1751 it had become a licensed house, known as the Robin Hood, according to a brief notice in a newsletter of the Potters Bar & District Historical Society.<ref name="lochistsoc">{{:Anonymous 1998a}}, p. 1. This notice includes a b.& w. photo of the Robin Hood.</ref> The Pub Wiki states that the pub was established in 1730,<ref>[https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml Pub Wiki: Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar.]</ref> but since no source is provided for the latter date, it seems safer to accept, provisionally at least, the date cited by the local history society, even if this also does not come with a reference. Being simply the Robin Hood during much of its existence, the name of the pub has varied over the years: | ||
* 1751: The Robin Hood<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | * 1751: The Robin Hood<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | ||
* 1760-61: The Robin Hood and Damsel<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | * 1760-61: The Robin Hood and Damsel<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | ||
* 1768-1811: The Robin Hood and Little John<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | * 1768-1811: The Robin Hood and Little John<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | ||
* 1896: Old Robin Hood Hotel<ref>[https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.69382&lon=-0.17754&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (1896; rev. 1895).]</ref> | |||
* 1928-34: The Old Robin Hood.<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | * 1928-34: The Old Robin Hood.<ref name="lochistsoc"/> | ||
The pub was damaged by a bomb in 1940 but was subsequently repaired<ref>[https://www.pasttimesproject.co.uk/lsl_browse.php?subsite=ll&story=1071 Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s], by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann</ref> or rebuilt.<ref name="lochistsoc"/> The excellent Pub Wiki lists information on publicans and other residents for 1851 to 1933.<ref>[https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar;] also see there [https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml London (North) 1896 Suburban Publicans directory listing – R.]</ref> | The pub was damaged by a bomb in 1940 but was subsequently repaired<ref>[https://www.pasttimesproject.co.uk/lsl_browse.php?subsite=ll&story=1071 Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s], by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann.</ref> or rebuilt.<ref name="lochistsoc"/> The excellent Pub Wiki lists information on publicans and other residents for 1851 to 1933.<ref>[https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar;] also see there [https://pubwiki.co.uk/LondonSuburbs1896/Publicans1896NorthR.shtml London (North) 1896 Suburban Publicans directory listing – R.]</ref>{{PlaceNamesItemAllusionsAndRecords}} | ||
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== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | ||
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== Maps == | == Maps == | ||
* | The Robin Hood is included on several of the O.S. maps. | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.com 1841 tithe map of the parish of South Mimms, Piece 21, Sub-Piece 041, Sub-Image 001, Type: Colour (TNA), at the Genealogist] (£) | |||
* 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (''c.'' 1875; surveyed 1865). No copy in NLS | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.69382&lon=-0.17754&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (1896; rev. 1895)] (georeferenced) | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/103657346#zoom=5&lat=9382&lon=9078&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (1896; rev. 1895)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/103657343#zoom=5&lat=9753&lon=9143&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (1913; rev. 1911)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/103657340#zoom=5&lat=9113&lon=8581&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.12 (1936; rev. 1935)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345916#zoom=5&lat=5047&lon=13624&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I (1868; surveyed 1866)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=51.69384&lon=-0.18002&layers=6&b=5 6" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.SE (1897; rev. 1895)] (georeferenced) | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101454739#zoom=5&lat=5716&lon=6644&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Middlesex'' I.SE (1897; rev. 1895)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101579820#zoom=5&lat=5760&lon=6753&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Hertfordshire'' XL.SE (1919; rev. 1913)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101579817#zoom=5&lat=6114&lon=6567&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Hertfordshire'' XL.SE (''c.'' 1939; rev. 1935)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101579814#zoom=5&lat=5989&lon=6742&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Hertfordshire'' XL.SE (''c.'' 1946; rev. 1938).] | |||
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Latest revision as of 01:09, 13 February 2021
| Locality | |
|---|---|
| Coordinate | 51.6939, -0.1776 |
| Adm. div. | Hertfordshire |
| Vicinity | 39 (?) High Street, Potters Bar |
| Type | Public house |
| Interest | Robin Hood name |
| Status | Defunct |
| First Record | 1751 |
| A.k.a. | The Robin Hood; Robin Hood Inn; The Old Robin Hood; Old Robin Hood Hotel; The Robin Hood and Damsel; The Robin Hood and Little John; Robin Hood & Little John |
At or near the site of the Robin Hood.
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2020-09-02. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-13.
The Robin Hood on the High Street in Potters Bar was in existence by 1751 and closed in 1980.
At the site of the pub was built a warehouse belonging to the now defunct MFI Group of furniture retailers.[1] The pub is labelled 'Old Robin Hood Hotel' (or similar) in several of the O.S. maps listed below. The location indicated there translates to something like 39 High Street in modern terms. Part of the pub would have stood on ground currently occupied by an Oliver Matthews furniture shop, part of it would have occupied the parking space along the east wall of the modern building (where a van is turning right in the Google Street View photo below).
Apparently the land on which the pub was later built was granted to one William Swain in 1721; in 1740 a messuage was erected there by William and Mary Stone. By 1751 it had become a licensed house, known as the Robin Hood, according to a brief notice in a newsletter of the Potters Bar & District Historical Society.[2] The Pub Wiki states that the pub was established in 1730,[3] but since no source is provided for the latter date, it seems safer to accept, provisionally at least, the date cited by the local history society, even if this also does not come with a reference. Being simply the Robin Hood during much of its existence, the name of the pub has varied over the years:
- 1751: The Robin Hood[2]
- 1760-61: The Robin Hood and Damsel[2]
- 1768-1811: The Robin Hood and Little John[2]
- 1896: Old Robin Hood Hotel[4]
- 1928-34: The Old Robin Hood.[2]
The pub was damaged by a bomb in 1940 but was subsequently repaired[5] or rebuilt.[2] The excellent Pub Wiki lists information on publicans and other residents for 1851 to 1933.[6]
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.
Sources
- Facebook: Potters Bar – a Trip Down Memory Lane; message posted by Neal Cramphorn on 23 Aug. 2020
- The Lost Pubs Project: Hertfordshire > Potters Bar > Robin Hood.
- [Norrish, Bob]. 'Walkabout in Potters Bar', The Campaign for Real Ale, South Herts. Newsletter, No. 1978 (Jan. 1978), p. [2], p. [2]
- Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s, by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann
- Pub Wiki: Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar[7]
Maps
The Robin Hood is included on several of the O.S. maps.
- 1841 tithe map of the parish of South Mimms, Piece 21, Sub-Piece 041, Sub-Image 001, Type: Colour (TNA), at the Genealogist (£)
- 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (c. 1875; surveyed 1865). No copy in NLS
- 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (1896; rev. 1895) (georeferenced)
- 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (1896; rev. 1895)
- 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (1913; rev. 1911)
- 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (1936; rev. 1935)
- 6" O.S. map Middlesex I (1868; surveyed 1866)
- 6" O.S. map Middlesex I.SE (1897; rev. 1895) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Middlesex I.SE (1897; rev. 1895)
- 6" O.S. map Hertfordshire XL.SE (1919; rev. 1913)
- 6" O.S. map Hertfordshire XL.SE (c. 1939; rev. 1935)
- 6" O.S. map Hertfordshire XL.SE (c. 1946; rev. 1938).
Background
Also see
Notes
- ↑ Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s, by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann; Facebook: Potters Bar – a Trip Down Memory Lane; message posted by Neal Cramphorn on 23 Aug. 2020; also see map in [Norrish, Bob]. 'Walkabout in Potters Bar', The Campaign for Real Ale, South Herts. Newsletter, No. 1978 (Jan. 1978), p. [2], p. [2]. According to The Lost Pubs Project: Hertfordshire > Potters Bar > Robin Hood (retrieved on 2 Sep. 2020), the pub 'closed in the ealry [sic] 1970s and has now been demolished, with offices built on the site'. As noted, MFI was a furniture store, and after the chain folded, the premises were taken over by another furniture dealer; '1970s' should no doubt be 1980.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Anonymous. 'Cover Picture', The Newletter [of] Potters Bar & District Historical Society, vol. 14, No. 3 (1998), p. 1, p. 1. This notice includes a b.& w. photo of the Robin Hood.
- ↑ Pub Wiki: Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar.
- ↑ 25" O.S. map Middlesex I.12 (1896; rev. 1895).
- ↑ Past Times Project: Lifestory Library: Old Potters Bar In The 30’s And 40’s, by Cyril Askew, edited by Rob Blann.
- ↑ Robin Hood, High Road, Potters Bar; also see there London (North) 1896 Suburban Publicans directory listing – R.
- ↑ Also see there London (North) 1896 Suburban Publicans directory listing – R.