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__NOTOC__{{ | __NOTOC__{{PlaceNamesItemTop|Lat=53.2709|Lon=-2.7700|AdministrativeDivision=Cheshire|Vicinity=In Helsby|Type=Public house|Interest=Robin Hood name|Status=Defunct|Demonym=|Riding=|GreaterLondon=|Year=1844|Aka=|Century=|Cluster1=Helsby|Cluster2=|Cluster3=|Image=rh-helsby-google-maps.jpg|Postcards=|ExtraCat1=|ExtraCat2=|ExtraCat3=|ExtraCat4=|ExtraCat5=|ExtraLink1=|ExtraLink2=|ExtraLink3=|ExtraLink4=|ExtraLink5=|ExtraLinkName1=|ExtraLinkName2=|ExtraLinkName3=|ExtraLinkName4=|ExtraLinkName5=|GeopointPrefix=|GeopointSuffix=|StatusSuffix=|DatePrefix=|DateSuffix=}} | ||
{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34% | {{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%|enablefullscreen=yes}}<div class="pnMapLegend">The site of the Robin Hood, Helsby.</div> | ||
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<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-21. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p> | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-21. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p> | ||
The Robin Hood in Helsby was located on the corner of Chester Road and [[Lower Robin Hood Lane (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Lane]]. In existence by 1844 it was closed by 4 May 2009.<ref>[https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby].</ref> Its name inspired those of several fields and streets in the immediate vicinity. | The Robin Hood in Helsby was located on the corner of Chester Road and [[Lower Robin Hood Lane (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Lane]]. In existence by 1844 it was closed by 4 May 2009.<ref>[https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby].</ref> Its name inspired those of several fields and streets in the immediate vicinity. | ||
The earliest record of the pub known to IRHB is the 1844 Helsby tithe award, which lists the plot of land as "Public House & Gardens".<ref>1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | The earliest record of the pub known to IRHB is the 1844 Helsby tithe award, which lists the plot of land as "Public House & Gardens".<ref>1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 017, item 137 (£).</ref> The owner was then a Henry Lowe, the occupier an Elizabeth Bromley, the area was listed as 1 rood and 6 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|0|1|6}} m<sup>2</sup>). Although the name of the pub is not cited in the tithe award, there can be no doubt that it was already then trading as the Robin Hood by 1844. Surrounding fields listed in the tithe award were named [[Higher Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Higher Robin Hood Field]], [[Lower Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Field]] and [[Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Robin Hood Field]] ''tout court'', while yet another was described as the "Field below Robin Hood".<ref>For the latter see 1844 tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 016, item 146 (£).</ref> These names must have been inspired by that of the pub. It is obviously not credible that the fields should already have been named after Robin Hood and someone should then have decided to open a Robin Hood pub near the centre of their combined area. | ||
In 1861 the publican was a Joseph Knight Potts; his wife was named Elizabeth.<ref>1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | In 1861 the publican was a Joseph Knight Potts; his wife was named Elizabeth.<ref>1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26 (£).</ref> In 1881 Elizabeth Potts is listed as "Inn Keeper".<ref>1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34 (£).</ref> In 1901 Joseph Potts was "Hotel Proprietor".<ref>1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29 (£).</ref> | ||
A row of semi-detached houses was under construction at the site of the pub in 2018 (see image in gallery below).{{ | A row of semi-detached houses was under construction at the site of the pub in 2018 (see image in gallery below).{{PlaceNamesItemAllusionsAndRecords}} | ||
== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311 | * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311 | ||
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== Maps == | == Maps == | ||
* 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (''c.'' 1874; surveyed ''c.'' 1872). No | * 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (''c.'' 1874; surveyed ''c.'' 1872). No copy in NLS | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.2710&lon=-2.7715&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced) | * [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.2710&lon=-2.7715&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced) | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114583042#zoom=4&lat=8622&lon=12235&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114583042#zoom=4&lat=8622&lon=12235&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)] | ||
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== MS sources == | == MS sources == | ||
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* 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 017, item 137 | ||
* Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Sub-Image 001, item 137 | ||
* 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26 | ||
* 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34 | ||
* 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29. | ||
== Printed and web sources == | == Printed and web sources == | ||
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.] | * [https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.] | ||
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== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
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File:rh-helsby-google-maps.jpg|The Robin Hood, boarded up and ready for sale (and demolition) / Google Earth Street View, Aug. 2009. | File:rh-helsby-google-maps.jpg|The Robin Hood, boarded up and ready for sale (and demolition) / Google Earth Street View, Aug. 2009. | ||
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File:robin-hood-helsby-google-earth-street-view.jpg|These have replaced the Robin Hood / Google Earth Street View, 2018. | File:robin-hood-helsby-google-earth-street-view.jpg|These have replaced the Robin Hood / Google Earth Street View, 2018. | ||
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Latest revision as of 19:14, 22 April 2022
Locality | |
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Coordinate | 53.2709, -2.77 |
Adm. div. | Cheshire |
Vicinity | In Helsby |
Type | Public house |
Interest | Robin Hood name |
Status | Defunct |
First Record | 1844 |
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-21. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2022-04-22.
The Robin Hood in Helsby was located on the corner of Chester Road and Lower Robin Hood Lane. In existence by 1844 it was closed by 4 May 2009.[1] Its name inspired those of several fields and streets in the immediate vicinity.
The earliest record of the pub known to IRHB is the 1844 Helsby tithe award, which lists the plot of land as "Public House & Gardens".[2] The owner was then a Henry Lowe, the occupier an Elizabeth Bromley, the area was listed as 1 rood and 6 perches (1163.47 m2). Although the name of the pub is not cited in the tithe award, there can be no doubt that it was already then trading as the Robin Hood by 1844. Surrounding fields listed in the tithe award were named Higher Robin Hood Field, Lower Robin Hood Field and Robin Hood Field tout court, while yet another was described as the "Field below Robin Hood".[3] These names must have been inspired by that of the pub. It is obviously not credible that the fields should already have been named after Robin Hood and someone should then have decided to open a Robin Hood pub near the centre of their combined area.
In 1861 the publican was a Joseph Knight Potts; his wife was named Elizabeth.[4] In 1881 Elizabeth Potts is listed as "Inn Keeper".[5] In 1901 Joseph Potts was "Hotel Proprietor".[6]
A row of semi-detached houses was under construction at the site of the pub in 2018 (see image in gallery below).
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311
- Not included in Dodgson, John McN.; Rumble, Alexander R. The Place-Names of Cheshire, pts. I-V (English Place-Name Society, vols. XLIV-XLVIII, LIV, LXXIV) (Cambridge, 1970-72; [s.l.], 1981; Nottingham, 1997).
Maps
- 25" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.6 (c. 1874; surveyed c. 1872). No copy in NLS
- 25" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897) (georeferenced)
- 25" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)
- 25" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.6 (1935; rev. 1908)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII (1881; surveyed 1873-74)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.NW (1899; rev. 1897) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.NW (1899; rev. 1897)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.NW (1911; rev. 1908)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.NW (c. 1936; rev. 1908)
- 6" O.S. map Cheshire XXXII.NW (c. 1944; rev. 1938).
MS sources
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- 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 017, item 137
- Accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Sub-Image 001, item 137
- 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26
- 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34
- 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29.
Printed and web sources
Also see
Notes
- ↑ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.
- ↑ 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 017, item 137 (£).
- ↑ For the latter see 1844 tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 199, Image 016, item 146 (£).
- ↑ 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26 (£).
- ↑ 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34 (£).
- ↑ 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist, Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29 (£).
Image gallery
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Robin Hood, Helsby: Another closed and dejected pub on Chester Road (A56) in Helsby / [https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2161017 Eirian Evans, 7 Aug. 2010, Creative