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<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-05. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-05. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p> | ||
The Robin Hood in Harpurhey, which closed in 1984, was certainly in business by 1911 and was perhaps established in 1875.<ref>[http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.]</ref> | The Robin Hood in Harpurhey, which closed in 1984, was certainly in business by 1911 and was perhaps established in 1875.<ref>[http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.]</ref> | ||
A local blogger aptly describes the building, which was torn down in 1984, as "grand-looking [...] in the flat iron style".<ref>[http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.]</ref> However, rather than inspiration from the famous flat-iron building in New York City (built 1902), it was probably the shape of the available plot of land which led to the wedge-shaped design. The building looked rather older and much less sleek than the New York skyscraper. A handful of photos of the pub are available online, but as a library has claimed copyright for them, they cannot be displayed here. For links see [http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.] | A local blogger aptly describes the building, which was torn down in 1984, as "grand-looking [...] in the flat iron style".<ref>[http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.]</ref> However, rather than inspiration from the famous flat-iron building in New York City (built 1902), it was probably the shape of the available plot of land which led to the wedge-shaped design. The building looked rather older and much less sleek than the New York skyscraper. A handful of photos of the pub are available online, but as a library has claimed copyright for them, they cannot be displayed here. For links see [http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.] | ||
The Pub History website lists information on publicans for 1911 and 1929.<ref>[https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodQueens.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 112 & 114 Queens Road & 17 Scropton Street, Harpurhey, Manchester, Lancashire.]</ref> To this we may add that the 1881 census lists William Frain, publican, under 112 Queen's Road.<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ The Genealogist: 1881 Census: Lancashire, Piece 04002, Image 00245] ( | The Pub History website lists information on publicans for 1911 and 1929.<ref>[https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodQueens.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 112 & 114 Queens Road & 17 Scropton Street, Harpurhey, Manchester, Lancashire.]</ref> To this we may add that the 1881 census lists William Frain, publican, under 112 Queen's Road.<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ The Genealogist: 1881 Census: Lancashire, Piece 04002, Image 00245] (£).</ref> No pub name is listed, and it is not clear if the pub had traded under the name 'Robin Hood' ever since 1875, when it is said to have opened. The earliest date of record for the pub name must therefore be 1911 until earlier records may come to light.{{PlaceNamesItemAllusionsAndRecords}} | ||
== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | ||
== MS sources == | == MS sources == | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ The Genealogist: 1881 Census: Lancashire, Piece 04002, Image 00245] ( | * [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ The Genealogist: 1881 Census: Lancashire, Piece 04002, Image 00245] (£). | ||
== Printed and web sources == | == Printed and web sources == | ||
* [https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodQueens.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 112 & 114 Queens Road & 17 Scropton Street, Harpurhey, Manchester, Lancashire.] | * [https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodQueens.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 112 & 114 Queens Road & 17 Scropton Street, Harpurhey, Manchester, Lancashire.] | ||
== Maps == | == Maps == | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522782#zoom=4&lat=5282&lon=8257&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.3 (1893; surveyed 1888-89)] | |||
* 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.3 (''c.'' 1908; rev. ''c.'' 1904). No copy in NLS | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.5021&lon=-2.2181&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.3 (1922; rev. 1915)] (georeferenced) | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522785#zoom=4&lat=5409&lon=7846&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.3 (1922; rev. 1915)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522788#zoom=4&lat=5576&lon=7674&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.3 (1936; rev. 1931)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103800#zoom=4&lat=4739&lon=2731&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1891; surveyed 1888-91)] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103800#zoom=4&lat=4739&lon=2731&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1891; surveyed 1888-91)] | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102339519#zoom=5&lat=4675&lon=2706&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (''c.'' 1947; rev. 1938)] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102339519#zoom=5&lat=4675&lon=2706&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (''c.'' 1947; rev. 1938)] | ||
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* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103794#zoom=4&lat=4755&lon=2725&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1923; rev. 1915-21)] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103794#zoom=4&lat=4755&lon=2725&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1923; rev. 1915-21)] | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103791#zoom=4&lat=4734&lon=2641&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1936; rev. 1931-32)] | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101103791#zoom=4&lat=4734&lon=2641&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (1936; rev. 1931-32)] | ||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102339519#zoom=5&lat=4661&lon=2538&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (''c.'' 1947; rev. 1938) | * [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102339519#zoom=5&lat=4661&lon=2538&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.NE (''c.'' 1947; rev. 1938).] | ||
== Discussion == | == Discussion == | ||
* [http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.] | * [http://pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2013/10/robin-hood-queens-road.html Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.] | ||
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Latest revision as of 01:08, 13 February 2021
| Locality | |
|---|---|
| Coordinate | 53.501856, -2.217837 |
| Adm. div. | Lancashire |
| Vicinity | 112-14 Queen's Road and 17 Scropton Street (corner of Queen's Road and Scropton Street), Harpurhey, Manchester |
| Type | Public house |
| Interest | Robin Hood name |
| Status | Defunct |
| First Record | 1911 |
Site of the Robin Hood.
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-05. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-13.
The Robin Hood in Harpurhey, which closed in 1984, was certainly in business by 1911 and was perhaps established in 1875.[1]
A local blogger aptly describes the building, which was torn down in 1984, as "grand-looking [...] in the flat iron style".[2] However, rather than inspiration from the famous flat-iron building in New York City (built 1902), it was probably the shape of the available plot of land which led to the wedge-shaped design. The building looked rather older and much less sleek than the New York skyscraper. A handful of photos of the pub are available online, but as a library has claimed copyright for them, they cannot be displayed here. For links see Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.
The Pub History website lists information on publicans for 1911 and 1929.[3] To this we may add that the 1881 census lists William Frain, publican, under 112 Queen's Road.[4] No pub name is listed, and it is not clear if the pub had traded under the name 'Robin Hood' ever since 1875, when it is said to have opened. The earliest date of record for the pub name must therefore be 1911 until earlier records may come to light.
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.
MS sources
Printed and web sources
Maps
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.3 (1893; surveyed 1888-89)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.3 (c. 1908; rev. c. 1904). No copy in NLS
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.3 (1922; rev. 1915) (georeferenced)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.3 (1922; rev. 1915)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.3 (1936; rev. 1931)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (1891; surveyed 1888-91)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (c. 1947; rev. 1938)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (1909; rev. 1905-1906) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (1909; rev. 1905-1906)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV (1923; rev. 1915-21)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (1923; rev. 1915-21)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (1936; rev. 1931-32)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.NE (c. 1947; rev. 1938).
Discussion
Background
Also see
Notes
- ↑ Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.
- ↑ Pubs of Manchester, Past & Present: Robin Hood, Queens Road.
- ↑ Pub History: Robin Hood, 112 & 114 Queens Road & 17 Scropton Street, Harpurhey, Manchester, Lancashire.
- ↑ The Genealogist: 1881 Census: Lancashire, Piece 04002, Image 00245 (£).