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<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-01-15. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p> | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-01-15. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p> | ||
The | The Pinder of Wakefield, a pub on Grays Inn Road, was in existence at least as early as 1692 (see Records below). It was almost certainly in existence by 1643 and may have been established as far back as 1517, which would make it one of the oldest known public houses with Robin Hood-related names. It is now named 'The Water Rats'. | ||
Information on publicans gleaned from trade directories etc. from the period 1732–1944 can be found at UK Pub History (see Sources below). The present building, dating from 1878, was also home to an 'Old Time Music Hall' until the 1980s. The pub was frequented by Marx and Lenin during their London days. In 1986 it was acquired by the Grand Order of Water Rats<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Order_of_Water_Rats Wikipedia: Grand Order of Water Rats.]</ref> and its name was changed to The Water Rats.<ref name="weinreb2008">{{:Weinreb, Benjamin 2008a}}, p. 642, ''s.n.'' Pindar of Wakefield.</ref> | |||
According to the well-respected ''London Encyclopedia'', the pub was '[o]riginally built in 1517 when the landlord was George Green, one-time Pindar or pound-keeper of Wakefield, who was supposed to have had connections with Robin Hood'.<ref name="weinreb2008"/> As the ''Encyclopedia'' is already as heavy as a dumb-bell, it is quite understandable that it does not encumber each entry with source references, but it is unfortunate in this case, for while it is quite possible it may have occurred to a publican to peddle the story that he had fought and beaten the most famous of outlaws, such an early date cannot be accepted without a reference to a reliable (near-)contemporary source. Publicans have been known to spin a yarn, and it might equally well have occurred to a slightly or much more recent incumbent – or perhaps one of his customers? – to add a little lustre to the establishment by spreading such a tale. Given the propensity of pubs with Robin Hood-related names to spawn similar place-names in their vicinity, it is highly likely that the [[Pinder of Wakefield's Fort (Clerkenwell)]] was named after the pub and/or because of its proximity to the road leading to it. Since the fort was established early in the Civil War years, by 1643, the pub was almost certainly in existence at that time. | |||
<section begin=graysinnroad/>Nomenclature has shifted over time. Lockie in his ''Topography'' (editions of 1810 and 1813) refers to the entire course of Grays Inn Road as "Gray's-Inn-Lane"<ref>{{:Lockie, John 1810a}}, ''s.n.'' Gray's-Inn-Lane. {{:Lockie, John 1813a}}, ''s.n.'' Gray's-Inn-Lane.</ref> – he has no entry under, or cross-reference from, "Grays Inn Road"; Edward Stanford's 1862-71 ''Library Map of London and its Suburbs'' labels the narrower part of the street along Grays Inn "Grays Inn Lane" but uses "Grays Inn Road" for the street north of Grays Inn where it becomes wider.<ref>[http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury.jpg Map of North West London, 1862 - 1871: Bloomsbury]</ref> Nowadays the entire length is named "Grays Inn Road".<section end=graysinnroad/><br/> | <section begin=graysinnroad/>Nomenclature has shifted over time. Lockie in his ''Topography'' (editions of 1810 and 1813) refers to the entire course of Grays Inn Road as "Gray's-Inn-Lane"<ref>{{:Lockie, John 1810a}}, ''s.n.'' Gray's-Inn-Lane. {{:Lockie, John 1813a}}, ''s.n.'' Gray's-Inn-Lane.</ref> – he has no entry under, or cross-reference from, "Grays Inn Road"; Edward Stanford's 1862-71 ''Library Map of London and its Suburbs'' labels the narrower part of the street along Grays Inn "Grays Inn Lane" but uses "Grays Inn Road" for the street north of Grays Inn where it becomes wider.<ref>[http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/bloomsbury.jpg Map of North West London, 1862 - 1871: Bloomsbury]</ref> Nowadays the entire length is named "Grays Inn Road".<section end=graysinnroad/><br/> | ||
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== Sources == | == Sources == | ||
* {{:Weinreb, Benjamin 2008a}}, p. 642, ''s.n.'' Pindar of Wakefield | |||
* [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/StPancras/PindarofWakefield.shtml UK Pub History: Pindar of Wakefield, 328 Grays Inn Road WC1.]<ref>Also see the following pages from UK Pub History: [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1839/1839Pigots-P.shtml The London 1839 Public House & Publican Directory - as listed in LONDON 1839 Pigots Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1841/London1841-P.shtml London 1841 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1842/1842P.shtml The London 1842 Robsons Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/London1869/London1869P.shtml London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1884/London1884P.shtml The London 1884 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1891/London1891P.shtml The London 1891 Public House & Publican Directory;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1899/London1899-P2.shtml The London 1899 Public House & Publican Directory - P2;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1910/London1910P1.shtml London publicans in 1910 - Post Office directory P1;] [https://pubshistory.com/London1921/London1921Pa.shtml London and Suburbs pubs in 1921 - Hughes directory listing - Pa;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1938/London1938P.shtml The London Public Houses in the 1938 Post Office Directory - Pa;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1944/London1944P.shtml The London Public Houses in the 1944 Post Office Directory - P.]</ref> | * [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/StPancras/PindarofWakefield.shtml UK Pub History: Pindar of Wakefield, 328 Grays Inn Road WC1.]<ref>Also see the following pages from UK Pub History: [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1839/1839Pigots-P.shtml The London 1839 Public House & Publican Directory - as listed in LONDON 1839 Pigots Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1841/London1841-P.shtml London 1841 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1842/1842P.shtml The London 1842 Robsons Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/London1869/London1869P.shtml London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1884/London1884P.shtml The London 1884 Public House & Publican Directory - P;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1891/London1891P.shtml The London 1891 Public House & Publican Directory;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1899/London1899-P2.shtml The London 1899 Public House & Publican Directory - P2;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1910/London1910P1.shtml London publicans in 1910 - Post Office directory P1;] [https://pubshistory.com/London1921/London1921Pa.shtml London and Suburbs pubs in 1921 - Hughes directory listing - Pa;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1938/London1938P.shtml The London Public Houses in the 1938 Post Office Directory - Pa;] [https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs1944/London1944P.shtml The London Public Houses in the 1944 Post Office Directory - P.]</ref> | ||
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== Background == | == Background == | ||
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Order_of_Water_Rats Wikipedia: Grand Order of Water Rats] | |||
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray%27s_Inn_Road Wikipedia: Gray's Inn Road.] | * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray%27s_Inn_Road Wikipedia: Gray's Inn Road.] | ||
Revision as of 07:48, 30 September 2020
The former Pinder of Wakefield.
[[File:|thumb|right|500px|The former Pinder of Wakefield / Google Earth Street View.]]
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-01-15. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2020-09-30.
The Pinder of Wakefield, a pub on Grays Inn Road, was in existence at least as early as 1692 (see Records below). It was almost certainly in existence by 1643 and may have been established as far back as 1517, which would make it one of the oldest known public houses with Robin Hood-related names. It is now named 'The Water Rats'.
Information on publicans gleaned from trade directories etc. from the period 1732–1944 can be found at UK Pub History (see Sources below). The present building, dating from 1878, was also home to an 'Old Time Music Hall' until the 1980s. The pub was frequented by Marx and Lenin during their London days. In 1986 it was acquired by the Grand Order of Water Rats[1] and its name was changed to The Water Rats.[2]
According to the well-respected London Encyclopedia, the pub was '[o]riginally built in 1517 when the landlord was George Green, one-time Pindar or pound-keeper of Wakefield, who was supposed to have had connections with Robin Hood'.[2] As the Encyclopedia is already as heavy as a dumb-bell, it is quite understandable that it does not encumber each entry with source references, but it is unfortunate in this case, for while it is quite possible it may have occurred to a publican to peddle the story that he had fought and beaten the most famous of outlaws, such an early date cannot be accepted without a reference to a reliable (near-)contemporary source. Publicans have been known to spin a yarn, and it might equally well have occurred to a slightly or much more recent incumbent – or perhaps one of his customers? – to add a little lustre to the establishment by spreading such a tale. Given the propensity of pubs with Robin Hood-related names to spawn similar place-names in their vicinity, it is highly likely that the Pinder of Wakefield's Fort (Clerkenwell) was named after the pub and/or because of its proximity to the road leading to it. Since the fort was established early in the Civil War years, by 1643, the pub was almost certainly in existence at that time.
Nomenclature has shifted over time. Lockie in his Topography (editions of 1810 and 1813) refers to the entire course of Grays Inn Road as "Gray's-Inn-Lane"[3] – he has no entry under, or cross-reference from, "Grays Inn Road"; Edward Stanford's 1862-71 Library Map of London and its Suburbs labels the narrower part of the street along Grays Inn "Grays Inn Lane" but uses "Grays Inn Road" for the street north of Grays Inn where it becomes wider.[4] Nowadays the entire length is named "Grays Inn Road".
G.W. Thornbury notes in Old and New London (1878, and perhaps also in edition of 1873) that 'The "Pinder of Wakefield" was an old public-house in the Gray's Inn Road, near Chad's Well, formerly much frequented by the wagoners of the great north road.'[5]Template:PnItemQry
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.
Sources
- Weinreb, Ben; Hibbert, Christopher; Keay, Julia; Keay, John. The London Encyclopaedia. Third Edition (London, 2008), p. 642, s.n. Pindar of Wakefield
- UK Pub History: Pindar of Wakefield, 328 Grays Inn Road WC1.[6]
Maps
- 25" O.S. map London XXVI (1877; surveyed 1871)
- 25" O.S. map London sheet V.6 (1916; rev. 1913)
- 6" O.S. map Middlesex XVII (1880-82; surveyed 1868-73)
- 6" O.S. map London VII.NW (1894-96; rev. 1893-94)
- 6" O.S. map London sheet K (1920; rev. 1913-14)
- 6" O.S. map London sheet K (c. 1946; rev. 1938).
Discussion
- Thornbury, Walter. Old and New London. Illustrated. A Narrative of its History, its People, and its Places (London, Paris, and New York, [1873-74]), not seen, but vol. II probably includes the mention of the pub.
- Thornbury, Walter; Walford, Edward. Old and New London: A Narrative of its History, its People, and its Places (London, Paris, and New York, [1878]), vol. II, p. 297.
Background
Notes
- ↑ Wikipedia: Grand Order of Water Rats.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Weinreb, Ben; Hibbert, Christopher; Keay, Julia; Keay, John. The London Encyclopaedia. Third Edition (London, 2008), p. 642, s.n. Pindar of Wakefield.
- ↑ Lockie, John, compil. Lockie's Topography of London, Giving a Concise Local Description of and Accurate Direction to Every Square, Street, Lane, Court, Dock, Wharf, Inn, Public Office, &c. in the Metropolis and its Environs (London, 1810), s.n. Gray's-Inn-Lane. Lockie, John, compil. Lockie's Topography of London, Giving a Concise Local Description of, and Accurate Direction to, Every Square, Street, Lane, Court, Dock, Wharf, Inn, Public Office, &c. in the Metropolis and its Environs. Second Edition (London, 1813), s.n. Gray's-Inn-Lane.
- ↑ Map of North West London, 1862 - 1871: Bloomsbury
- ↑ Thornbury, Walter; Walford, Edward. Old and New London: A Narrative of its History, its People, and its Places (London, Paris, and New York, [1878]), vol. II, p. 297. Thornbury, Walter. Old and New London. Illustrated. A Narrative of its History, its People, and its Places (London, Paris, and New York, [1873-74]), not seen.
- ↑ Also see the following pages from UK Pub History: The London 1839 Public House & Publican Directory - as listed in LONDON 1839 Pigots Directory - P; London 1841 Public House & Publican Directory - P; The London 1842 Robsons Public House & Publican Directory - P; London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - London 1869 Public House & Publican Directory - P; The London 1884 Public House & Publican Directory - P; The London 1891 Public House & Publican Directory; The London 1899 Public House & Publican Directory - P2; London publicans in 1910 - Post Office directory P1; London and Suburbs pubs in 1921 - Hughes directory listing - Pa; The London Public Houses in the 1938 Post Office Directory - Pa; The London Public Houses in the 1944 Post Office Directory - P.
