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{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}|width=34%}}<div class="pnMapLegend">Agden, the township in which Robin Hood Hay was located</div>
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Somewhere in the township of Agden, Cheshire, was a field named 'Robin Hood Hay' according to John McNeal Dodgson. He does not cite any etymology for 'Hay', but this would seem more likely to be OE '''(ge)h&aelig;g''', 'enclosure', or OE '''hege''' ('a hedge, a fence) than '''h&#275;g''', 'hay, mowing grass', since the latter is almost exclusively found as the first element of compound names. This field-name is recorded in a tithe award dated either 1839 or 1848.<ref>{{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}, vol. II, p. 43; see. vol.II, p. 42 for MS source; vol. V, pt. I-ii, pp. 205-207 and 220 for the place-name elements; brief mention vol. II, p. 43; also see vol. V, pt. 1:ii, p. 401.</ref> I have consulted the tithe awards for several townships in the area that are available at the Genealogist<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk The Genealogist] (paid subscription required).</ref> &ndash; Agden, Bowdon, Rostherne, Bollington, and High Leigh &ndash; without finding the entry on Robin Hood Hay. However, this does not necessarily mean that Dodgson's source reference is incorrect. The records available at the Genealogist are mainly tithe apportionments and accompanying maps. The work of a tithe commission tended to generate several other types of records some of which may have been included in the tithe award used by Dodgson and his collaborators. Pending further research, I have indicated the coordinates of Agden  (53.368470,-2.429242) for this field-name.
In modern terms, Robin Hood Hay in Agden, Cheshire, was situated immediately northwest of Reddy Lane and mostly south of the M56. The field name occurs in the tithe award for Agden in the parish of Rostherne (1848).


As of January 2017, Robin Hood Hay does not seem to be mentioned elsewhere on the World Wide Web.
A close is listed there under the name 'Robin Hood Hay', with Sir John Newdigate-Ludford-Chetwode, Baronet, as owner, Thomas Cross as occcupier, 'Meadow' as state of cultivation, and an area of 7 acres and 28 perches ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|7|0|28}} m<sup>2</sup>).<ref>1848 tithe award for the township of Agden in the parish of Rostherne, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Image 0004, #62 (£); accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Sub-Image 001, #62 (£).</ref> The field name is noted by John McNeal Dodgson in the English Place Name Society's survey of Cheshire. He does not cite any etymology for 'Hay', but this would seem more likely to be OE '''(ge)h&aelig;g''', 'enclosure', or OE '''hege''' ('a hedge, a fence) than '''h&#275;g''', 'hay, mowing grass', since the latter is almost exclusively found as the first element of compound names.<ref>{{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}, vol. II, pp. 42, 43; see. vol. V, pt. I:ii, pp. 205-207 and 220 for the place-name elements; also see vol. V, pt. 1:ii, p. 401.</ref>
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At the northwest end of Robin Hood Hay was [[Little Robin Hood Hay (Agden)|Little Robin Hood Hay]]. Both ployts are roughly indicated on the adapeted map detail included in the image gallery below. As of January 2017, Robin Hood Hay does not seem to be mentioned elsewhere on the World Wide Web, so most likely the field name is defunct.
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== Gazetteers ==
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
=== Sources ===
* {{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}, vol. II, p. 43; also see vol. V, pt. 1:ii, p. 401.<!--
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=== Background ===
== MS sources ==
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk The Genealogist.]
* 1848 tithe award for the township of Agden in the parish of Rostherne, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Image 0004, #62 (£)
* accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Sub-Image 001, #62 (£).


=== Also seee ===
== Printed sources ==
* [[Places named Robin Hood's Close]].
* {{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}, vol. II, p. 43; also see vol. V, pt. 1:ii, p. 401.
=== Notes ===
 
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* 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.12 (''c.'' 1875; surveyed ''c.'' 1873). No copy in NLS]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.36428&lon=-2.41921&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.12 (1898; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced)
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114581761#zoom=4&lat=2933&lon=7924&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.12 (1898; rev. 1897)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114581764#zoom=4&lat=2958&lon=7923&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.12 (1910; rev. 1908)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341002#zoom=5&lat=3623&lon=13028&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII (1882; surveyed 1873&ndash;76)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=53.36368&lon=-2.42358&layers=6&b=5 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (1899; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced)
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101598259#zoom=4&lat=4072&lon=6373&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (1899; rev. 1897)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101598253#zoom=4&lat=4149&lon=6501&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (1911; rev. 1908)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/101598256#zoom=4&lat=4173&lon=6036&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (''c.'' 1933; rev. 1908)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102191200#zoom=4&lat=4227&lon=6037&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (''c.'' 1936; rev. 1908)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102191197#zoom=4&lat=4180&lon=6659&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XVII.SE (''c.'' 1945; rev. 1938).]
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Latest revision as of 16:43, 8 May 2022

Locality
Coordinate 53.3637, -2.4164
Adm. div. Cheshire
Vicinity Immediately W of reddy Lane and S of M56; Agden in parish of Rostherne
Type Area
Interest Robin Hood name
Status Defunct?
First Record 1848
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The (former?) Robin Hood Hay in Agden.
Looking NW from Reddy Lane. This area was formerly known as Robin Hood Hay / Google Earth Street View.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-16. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2022-05-08.

In modern terms, Robin Hood Hay in Agden, Cheshire, was situated immediately northwest of Reddy Lane and mostly south of the M56. The field name occurs in the tithe award for Agden in the parish of Rostherne (1848).

A close is listed there under the name 'Robin Hood Hay', with Sir John Newdigate-Ludford-Chetwode, Baronet, as owner, Thomas Cross as occcupier, 'Meadow' as state of cultivation, and an area of 7 acres and 28 perches (29036.19 m2).[1] The field name is noted by John McNeal Dodgson in the English Place Name Society's survey of Cheshire. He does not cite any etymology for 'Hay', but this would seem more likely to be OE (ge)hæg, 'enclosure', or OE hege ('a hedge, a fence) than hēg, 'hay, mowing grass', since the latter is almost exclusively found as the first element of compound names.[2]

At the northwest end of Robin Hood Hay was Little Robin Hood Hay. Both ployts are roughly indicated on the adapeted map detail included in the image gallery below. As of January 2017, Robin Hood Hay does not seem to be mentioned elsewhere on the World Wide Web, so most likely the field name is defunct.

Gazetteers

MS sources

  • 1848 tithe award for the township of Agden in the parish of Rostherne, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Image 0004, #62 (£)
  • accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Sub-Image 001, #62 (£).

Printed sources

Maps

Also see


Notes

  1. ↑ 1848 tithe award for the township of Agden in the parish of Rostherne, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Image 0004, #62 (£); accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, Piece 05, sub-piece 006, Sub-Image 001, #62 (£).
  2. ↑ Dodgson, John McN.; Rumble, Alexander R. The Place-Names of Cheshire, pts. I-V (English Place-Name Society, vols. XLIV-XLVIII, LIV, LXXIV) (Cambridge, 1970-72; [s.l.], 1981; Nottingham, 1997), vol. II, pp. 42, 43; see. vol. V, pt. I:ii, pp. 205-207 and 220 for the place-name elements; also see vol. V, pt. 1:ii, p. 401.


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