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{{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%}}<div class="pnMapLegend">Centrepoint of the lost Ducie Grove which connected | {{#display_map:{{#var:Coords}}~{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}|'|'}}|width=34%}}<div class="pnMapLegend">Centrepoint of the lost Ducie Grove which connected Denmark Road, to the south, and Devas Street, then named Ducie Street, to the north.</div> | ||
[[File:{{#var:Pnimage}}|thumb|right|500px|Ducie Grove lead north from about this point on Denmark Road / Google Earth Street View.]] | [[File:{{#var:Pnimage}}|thumb|right|500px|Ducie Grove lead north from about this point on Denmark Road / Google Earth Street View.]] | ||
<p id="byline">By | <p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-04. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p><div class="no-img"> | ||
The Robin Hood on Ducie Grove in Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, figures in licensing registers from 1867 to 1967<ref>[https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodDucie.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 49 Ducie Grove, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, Lancashire.]</ref> and so may have closed for good shortly after celebrating its centennial. Perhaps it disappeared with the street on which it was situated. The no longer existing Ducie Grove in Chorlton on Medlock ran almost due north from Denmark Road – at the slight bend where the latter changes it direction a bit to head due west – to Devas Street, which was then named Ducie Street and connected Oxford Road and Lloyd Street (now Lloyd Street North). Ducie Grove is shown, without name, on the 1844 tithe map, but the tithe award does not mention a public house there.<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk Chorlton on Medlock tithe map, Piece 18, Sub-Piece 074, Sub-Image 001] (subscription required)</ref> | |||
Its place in the sequence of entries in the 1881 census suggests that the Robin Hood was situated somewhere along the stretch of Ducie Grove that would have connected Devas and Dilworth streets had it existed today.<ref>[https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk 1881 Census. Lancashire, Pirce 03922, Image 00089] (subscription required).</ref> | |||
The excellent Pub History website lists information on publicans and other residents from 1876 to 1911.<ref>[https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodDucie.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 49 Ducie Grove, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, Lancashire.]</ref> | |||
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== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | ||
== MS sources == | |||
* -- | * [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk 1881 Census. Lancashire, Pirce 03922, Image 00089] | ||
* [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk Chorlton on Medlock tithe map, Piece 18, Sub-Piece 074, Sub-Image 001] (subscription required). | |||
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== Printed and web sources == | |||
* [https://pubhistory.co.uk//Lancashire/ManchesterR/RobinHoodDucie.shtml Pub History: Robin Hood, 49 Ducie Grove, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, Lancashire.] | |||
== Maps == | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.4617&lon=-2.2350&layers=6&b=5 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.SE (1909; rev. 1905)] (georeferenced) | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102344087#zoom=5&lat=1940&lon=7872&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV (1848; surveyed 1845)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102344084#zoom=6&lat=2822&lon=8608&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV (1923; rev. 1915-21)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522869#zoom=4&lat=7662&lon=2443&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.15 (1893; surveyed 1888-89)] | |||
* 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.15 (''c.'' 1908; ''c.'' 1904). No Copy in NLS | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.4618&lon=-2.2315&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.15 (1922; rev. 1915-16)] (georeferenced) | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522872#zoom=4&lat=7807&lon=2350&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.15 (1922; rev. 1915-16)] | |||
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522875#zoom=4&lat=7555&lon=2652&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Lancashire'' CIV.15 (1935; rev. 1933).] | |||
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Revision as of 02:22, 4 March 2019
[[File:|thumb|right|500px|Ducie Grove lead north from about this point on Denmark Road / Google Earth Street View.]]
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-04. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-03-04.
The Robin Hood on Ducie Grove in Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, figures in licensing registers from 1867 to 1967[1] and so may have closed for good shortly after celebrating its centennial. Perhaps it disappeared with the street on which it was situated. The no longer existing Ducie Grove in Chorlton on Medlock ran almost due north from Denmark Road – at the slight bend where the latter changes it direction a bit to head due west – to Devas Street, which was then named Ducie Street and connected Oxford Road and Lloyd Street (now Lloyd Street North). Ducie Grove is shown, without name, on the 1844 tithe map, but the tithe award does not mention a public house there.[2]
Its place in the sequence of entries in the 1881 census suggests that the Robin Hood was situated somewhere along the stretch of Ducie Grove that would have connected Devas and Dilworth streets had it existed today.[3]
The excellent Pub History website lists information on publicans and other residents from 1876 to 1911.[4] Template:PnItemQry
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.
MS sources
- 1881 Census. Lancashire, Pirce 03922, Image 00089
- Chorlton on Medlock tithe map, Piece 18, Sub-Piece 074, Sub-Image 001 (subscription required).
Printed and web sources
Maps
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.SE (1909; rev. 1905) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV (1848; surveyed 1845)
- 6" O.S. map Lancashire CIV (1923; rev. 1915-21)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.15 (1893; surveyed 1888-89)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.15 (c. 1908; c. 1904). No Copy in NLS
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.15 (1922; rev. 1915-16) (georeferenced)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.15 (1922; rev. 1915-16)
- 25" O.S. map Lancashire CIV.15 (1935; rev. 1933).
- ↑ Pub History: Robin Hood, 49 Ducie Grove, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, Lancashire.
- ↑ Chorlton on Medlock tithe map, Piece 18, Sub-Piece 074, Sub-Image 001 (subscription required)
- ↑ 1881 Census. Lancashire, Pirce 03922, Image 00089 (subscription required).
- ↑ Pub History: Robin Hood, 49 Ducie Grove, Chorlton on Medlock, Manchester, Lancashire.