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A field or close east and north of Mollands Lane is recorded as "Little Johns" in the 1839 tithe award for South Ockendon. It was owned by Catherine Oliphant and occupied by William Mays, state of cultivation was "Arable" and area {{ | A field or close east and north of Mollands Lane is recorded as "Little Johns" in the 1839 tithe award for South Ockendon. It was owned by Catherine Oliphant and occupied by William Mays, state of cultivation was "Arable" and area {{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|19|3|14}} m<sup>2</sup>. The somewhat larger ({{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|22|2|6}} m<sup>2</sup>) close immediately east of it was entered as "Great Johns". <ref>Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016 (£); [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Sub-Image 001; map (£).</ref> | ||
While it is of course a possibility that it may have been reinterpreted along such lines, it is quite uncertain if the name "Little Johns" was meant to referer to Robin Hood's second in command. Elsewhere in South Ockendon, in 1922, a smaller area of grassland was known as "Little Jennys". We also cannot be certain if "Little Johns", "Great Johns" and "Little Jennys" were thought of as being in the plural or the singular possessive, though the latter seems the more likely since there was evidently only a single piece of land with each of these names.<ref>Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | While it is of course a possibility that it may have been reinterpreted along such lines, it is quite uncertain if the name "Little Johns" was meant to referer to Robin Hood's second in command. Elsewhere in South Ockendon, in 1922, a smaller area of grassland was known as "Little Jennys". We also cannot be certain if "Little Johns", "Great Johns" and "Little Jennys" were thought of as being in the plural or the singular possessive, though the latter seems the more likely since there was evidently only a single piece of land with each of these names.<ref>Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 034 (dated 1922) (£).</ref>{{PlaceNamesItemAllusionsAndRecords}} | ||
== Gazetteers == | == Gazetteers == | ||
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | * Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311. | ||
== MS sources == | == MS sources == | ||
* Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016, No. 365 (£) | ||
* Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Sub-Image 001 (£). | ||
== Maps == | == Maps == | ||
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== Background == | == Background == | ||
=== MSS === | === MSS === | ||
* Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016, No. 363 (£) | ||
* Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist. | * Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [''sic''], online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 034, No. 60 (dated 1922) (£). | ||
=== Web === | === Web === | ||
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ockendon Wikipedia: South Ockendon.] | * [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ockendon Wikipedia: South Ockendon.] | ||
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File:geograph-3246634-by-David-Anstiss.jpg|'Little Johns' can be seen in the distance on the left (east) side of the road / [http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3246634 David Anstiss, 25 Nov. 2012, Creative Commons, via Geograph.] | File:geograph-3246634-by-David-Anstiss.jpg|'Little Johns' can be seen in the distance on the left (east) side of the road / [http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3246634 David Anstiss, 25 Nov. 2012, Creative Commons, via Geograph.] | ||
File:little-johns-south-ockendon-google-earth-street-view.jpg|Little Johns (red outline) and Great Johns (yellow outline) / Google Earth Street View. | File:little-johns-south-ockendon-google-earth-street-view.jpg|Little Johns (red outline) and Great Johns (yellow outline) / Google Earth Street View. | ||
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Latest revision as of 03:49, 12 February 2021
Locality | |
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Coordinate | 51.5197, 0.3218 |
Adm. div. | Essex |
Vicinity | East and north of Mollands Lane in South Ockendon |
Type | Area |
Interest | Robin Hood name |
Status | Defunct? |
First Record | 1839 |
By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-02-19. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-12.
A field or close east and north of Mollands Lane is recorded as "Little Johns" in the 1839 tithe award for South Ockendon. It was owned by Catherine Oliphant and occupied by William Mays, state of cultivation was "Arable" and area 80279.51 m2. The somewhat larger (91206.03 m2) close immediately east of it was entered as "Great Johns". [1]
While it is of course a possibility that it may have been reinterpreted along such lines, it is quite uncertain if the name "Little Johns" was meant to referer to Robin Hood's second in command. Elsewhere in South Ockendon, in 1922, a smaller area of grassland was known as "Little Jennys". We also cannot be certain if "Little Johns", "Great Johns" and "Little Jennys" were thought of as being in the plural or the singular possessive, though the latter seems the more likely since there was evidently only a single piece of land with each of these names.[2]
Gazetteers
- Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.
MS sources
- Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [sic], online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016, No. 365 (£)
- Accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Sub-Image 001 (£).
Maps
- 25" O.S. map Essex LXXV.16 (1897; rev. 1895) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Essex LXXV (1872; surveyed 1865-66)
- 6" O.S. map Essex LXXV.SE (1898; rev. 1895)
- 6" O.S. map Essex LXXV.SE (1898; rev. 1895) (georeferenced)
- 6" O.S. map Essex nLXXXVIII (1921; rev. 1915)
- 6" O.S. map Essex nLXXXVIII.SW (1921; rev. 1915)
- 6" O.S. map Essex nLXXXVIII.SW (c. 1945; rev. 1938)
- 1:25,000 O.S. map TQ68 (1958; surveyed 1938-55) (georeferenced)
- 1:1 million–1:10k (1900s) TQ611826 (georeferenced).
Background
MSS
- Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [sic], online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016, No. 363 (£)
- Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [sic], online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 034, No. 60 (dated 1922) (£).
Web
Also see
Notes
- ↑ Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [sic], online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 016 (£); Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Sub-Image 001; map (£).
- ↑ Tithe award for "South Ockenden" [sic], online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 251, Image 034 (dated 1922) (£).
Image gallery
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'Little Johns' can be seen in the distance on the left (east) side of the road / David Anstiss, 25 Nov. 2012, Creative Commons, via Geograph.