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[[File:{{#var:Pnimage}}|thumb|right|500px|The drainpipe between In Tuition House and Galápagos Net would have been in the middle (or nearly so) of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.]]
[[File:{{#var:Pnimage}}|thumb|right|500px|The drainpipe between In Tuition House (to the right of Fresh) and Galápagos Net would have been in the middle (or nearly so) of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.]]
[[File:robin-hood-court-borough-high-street-john-rocque-locating-londons-past.jpg|thumb|right|500px|John Rocque's map of London and Westminster (1746) centred on Robinhood Alley (shown but not labelled) / [https://www.locatinglondon.org Locating London's Past.]]]
[[File:robin-hood-court-borough-high-street-john-rocque-locating-londons-past.jpg|thumb|right|500px|John Rocque's map of London and Westminster (1746) centred on Robinhood Alley (shown but not labelled) / [https://www.locatinglondon.org Locating London's Past.]]]
[[File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-horwood-romantic-london.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Richard Horwood's ''Plan of Westminster and London'' (1792), centred on Robinhood Alley, which is shown but not labelled / [http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#19/51.50096/-0.09352 Romantic London.]]]
[[File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-horwood-romantic-london.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Richard Horwood's ''Plan of Westminster and London'' (1792), centred on Robinhood Alley, which is shown but not labelled / [http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#19/51.50096/-0.09352 Romantic London.]]]
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At the present 208-210 Borough High Street, formerly Blackman Street, in Southwark, was a short narrow cul-de-sac variously known as Robin Hood Court, Robin Hood Alley and Robinhood Alley. Coming from London Bridge, one would have Robinhood Alley on one's right shortly after Mint Street, now Marshalsea Road. Robinhood Alley in all probability existed already in 1590.
At present 208-210 Borough High Street, formerly Blackman Street, in Southwark, was a short narrow cul-de-sac variously known as Robin Hood Court, Robin Hood Alley and Robinhood Alley. Coming from London Bridge, one would have Robinhood Alley on one's right shortly after Mint Street, now Marshalsea Road. Robinhood Alley in all probability existed already in 1590.


John Strype in 1720 (see Allusions below) cited or paraphrased a table of benefactors in the church of St George the Martyr, Southwark, which included this entry under 1590: "William Evance gave out of his Robin Hood Rents in Blackman Street, in Bread yearly for ever" £5.4s.0d. The rents in question were very probably those paid for the houses in the 'Robin Hood Court' mentioned in the other reference in Strype (see Allusions below). It would be interesting to know if the stone table on which Strype's printed ditto was based is still in existence. A new parish church was built 14 to 16 years after Strype's work appeared. Was the stone tablet transferred to the new building?
John Strype in 1720 (see Allusions below) cited or paraphrased a table of benefactors in the church of St George the Martyr, Southwark, which included this entry under 1590: "William Evance gave out of his Robin Hood Rents in Blackman Street, in Bread yearly for ever" £5.4s.0d. The rents in question were very probably those paid for the houses in the 'Robin Hood Court' mentioned in the other reference in Strype (see Allusions below). It would be interesting to know if the stone table on which Strype's printed ditto was based is still in existence. A new parish church was built 14 to 16 years after Strype's work appeared. Was the stone tablet transferred to the new building?


Among other relatively early sources noting the locality are ''New Remarks of London'' (1732), compiled by the Company of Parish Clerks, which seems to have inadvertently entered it twice, as "Robin hood alley ''in'' blackman str." and "Robin hood alley ''in'' the mint".<ref>{{:Company of Parish-Clerks, The 1732a}}, p. 361 ''s.nn.'' Robin hood alley [1], Robin hood alley [2]. Italic type as printed there.</ref> As noted above, the Mint was the early modern precursor of Marshalsea Road, and the name was also applied to the neighbourhood near it (see the second allusion in Strype below). ''The Compleat Compting House Companion'' (1763) knows the locality as "Robinhood alley"<ref>{{:Anonymous 1763a}}, p. 417 ''s.n.'' Robinhood alley.</ref> The ''New Complete Guide'' (1783) has "Robin Hood alley".<ref>{{:Anonymous 1783a}}, p. 59 ''s.n.'' Robin Hood alley.</ref>
Among other relatively early sources noting the locality are ''New Remarks of London'' (1732), compiled by the Company of Parish Clerks, which seems to have inadvertently entered it twice, as "Robin hood alley ''in'' blackman str." and "Robin hood alley ''in'' the mint".<ref>{{:Company of Parish-Clerks, The 1732a}}, p. 361 ''s.nn.'' Robin hood alley [1], Robin hood alley [2]. Italic type as printed there.</ref> As noted above, the Mint was the early modern precursor of Marshalsea Road, and the name was also applied to the neighbourhood near it (see the second allusion in Strype below). ''The Compleat Compting House Companion'' (1763) knows the locality as "Robinhood alley".<ref>{{:Anonymous 1763a}}, p. 417 ''s.n.'' Robinhood alley.</ref> The ''New Complete Guide'' (1783) has "Robin Hood alley".<ref>{{:Anonymous 1783a}}, p. 59 ''s.n.'' Robin Hood alley.</ref>


Since Robin Hood alleys and courts in London tended to take their names from (the signs of) Robin Hood pubs, it would be surprising if Robinhood Alley in Southwark did not owe its name to the presence of a local Robin Hood pub.{{#ask:[[Category:Records ({{#ifeq:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}||{{PAGENAME}}|{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|0| {{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}-1}} }},{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}-1}}|1}}{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}+1}}}}}}]]| format=embedded|embedformat=h4|columns=1|limit=1000|sort=Utitle|intro=<h3>Records</h3>}}{{#ask:[[Category:Allusions ({{#ifeq:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}||{{PAGENAME}}|{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|0| {{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}-1}} }},{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}-1}}|1}}{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#pos:{{PAGENAME}}|(|}}+1}}}}}}]]| format=embedded|embedformat=h4|columns=1|limit=1000|sort=Utitle|intro=<h3>Allusions</h3>}}
Since Robin Hood alleys and courts in London tended to take their names from (the signs of) Robin Hood pubs, it would be surprising if Robinhood Alley in Southwark did not owe its name to the presence of a long vanished Robin Hood pub there.
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* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
 
== Sources ==
* {{:Anonymous 1763a}}, p. 417 ''s.n.'' Robinhood alley
* {{:Anonymous 1763a}}, p. 417 ''s.n.'' Robinhood alley
* {{:Anonymous 1783a}}, p. 59 ''s.n.'' Robin Hood alley
* {{:Anonymous 1783a}}, p. 59 ''s.n.'' Robin Hood alley
* {{:Company of Parish-Clerks, The 1732a}}, p. 361 ''s.nn.'' Robin hood alley [1], Robin hood alley [2]
* {{:Company of Parish-Clerks, The 1732a}}, p. 361 ''s.nn.'' Robin hood alley [1], Robin hood alley [2].
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
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* {{:Rocque, John 1746a}}
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** [https://www.locatinglondon.org/ Locating London's Past: John Rocque's map]
** [https://www.locatinglondon.org/ Locating London's Past: John Rocque's map]
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* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345861#zoom=6&lat=2650&lon=7773&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''London'' Sheet K (''c.'' 1946; rev. 1938).]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345861#zoom=6&lat=2650&lon=7773&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''London'' Sheet K (''c.'' 1946; rev. 1938).]


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=== Background ===
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borough_High_Street Wikipedia: Borough High Street]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borough_High_Street Wikipedia: Borough High Street]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwark Wikipedia: Southwark.]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwark Wikipedia: Southwark.]
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File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street.jpg|The drainpipe between In Tuition House and Galápagos Net would have been in the middle (or nearly so) of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.
File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street.jpg|The drainpipe between In Tuition House (to the right of Fresh) and Galápagos Net would have been in the middle (or nearly so) of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.
File:robin-hood-court-borough-high-street-john-rocque-locating-londons-past.jpg|thumb|right|500px|John Rocque's map of London and Westminster (1746) centred on Robinhood Alley (shown but not labelled) / [https://www.locatinglondon.org Locating London's Past.]
File:robin-hood-court-borough-high-street-john-rocque-locating-londons-past.jpg|thumb|right|500px|John Rocque's map of London and Westminster (1746) centred on Robinhood Alley (shown but not labelled) / [https://www.locatinglondon.org Locating London's Past.]
File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-2.jpg|Looking NNE from Vine Yard: the black car is parked at the site of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.
File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-2.jpg|Looking NNE from Vine Yard: the dark blue car is parked at the site of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.
File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-horwood-romantic-london.jpg|Richard Horwood's ''Plan of Westminster and London'' (1792), centred on Robinhood Alley, which is shown but not labelled / [http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#19/51.50096/-0.09352 Romantic London.]
File:robinhood-alley-borough-high-street-horwood-romantic-london.jpg|Richard Horwood's ''Plan of Westminster and London'' (1792), centred on Robinhood Alley, which is shown but not labelled / [http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#19/51.50096/-0.09352 Romantic London.]
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Site of Robinhood Alley, Borough High Street.

[[File:|thumb|right|500px|The drainpipe between In Tuition House (to the right of Fresh) and Galápagos Net would have been in the middle (or nearly so) of Robinhood Alley / Google Earth Street View.]]

John Rocque's map of London and Westminster (1746) centred on Robinhood Alley (shown but not labelled) / Locating London's Past.
Richard Horwood's Plan of Westminster and London (1792), centred on Robinhood Alley, which is shown but not labelled / Romantic London.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-07-04. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-06-07.

At present 208-210 Borough High Street, formerly Blackman Street, in Southwark, was a short narrow cul-de-sac variously known as Robin Hood Court, Robin Hood Alley and Robinhood Alley. Coming from London Bridge, one would have Robinhood Alley on one's right shortly after Mint Street, now Marshalsea Road. Robinhood Alley in all probability existed already in 1590.

John Strype in 1720 (see Allusions below) cited or paraphrased a table of benefactors in the church of St George the Martyr, Southwark, which included this entry under 1590: "William Evance gave out of his Robin Hood Rents in Blackman Street, in Bread yearly for ever" £5.4s.0d. The rents in question were very probably those paid for the houses in the 'Robin Hood Court' mentioned in the other reference in Strype (see Allusions below). It would be interesting to know if the stone table on which Strype's printed ditto was based is still in existence. A new parish church was built 14 to 16 years after Strype's work appeared. Was the stone tablet transferred to the new building?

Among other relatively early sources noting the locality are New Remarks of London (1732), compiled by the Company of Parish Clerks, which seems to have inadvertently entered it twice, as "Robin hood alley in blackman str." and "Robin hood alley in the mint".[1] As noted above, the Mint was the early modern precursor of Marshalsea Road, and the name was also applied to the neighbourhood near it (see the second allusion in Strype below). The Compleat Compting House Companion (1763) knows the locality as "Robinhood alley".[2] The New Complete Guide (1783) has "Robin Hood alley".[3]

Since Robin Hood alleys and courts in London tended to take their names from (the signs of) Robin Hood pubs, it would be surprising if Robinhood Alley in Southwark did not owe its name to the presence of a long vanished Robin Hood pub there. Template:PnItemQry

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  1. Company of Parish-Clerks, The, compil. New Remarks of London: Or, A Survey of the Cities of London and Westminster, of Southwark, and Part of Middlesex and Surrey, Within the Circumference of the Bills of Mortality. Containing the Situation, Antiquity and Rebuilding of Each Church, the Value of the Rectory or Vicarage; in Whose Gifts They are; and the Names of the Present Incumbents and Lecturers. Of the Several Vestries, the Hours of Prayer, Parish and Ward Officers, Charity and other Schools; the Number of Charity-children, How Maintained, Educated and Placed out Apprentices, or Put to Service. Of the Alms-houses, Work-houses and Hospitals. The Remarkable Places and Things in Each Parish, with the Limits or Bounds, Streets, Lanes, Courts, and Number of Houses. Likewise an Alphabetical Table of All the Streets, Courts, Lanes, Alleys, Yards, Rows, Rents, Squares, &c. Within the Bills of Mortality, Shewing in What Liberty or Freedom They are, and an Easy Method for Finding any of them. Of the Several Inns of Courts, and Inns of Chancery, with Their Several Buildings, Courts, Lanes, &c. Collected by the Company of Parish-Clerks. To which are added, The Places to which Penny Post Letters are Sent, with Proper Directions Therein. The Wharfs, Keys, Docks, &c. near the River Thames. Of Water-carriage to Several Cities, Towns, &c. The Rates of Water Men, Porters of All Kinds, and Car Men. To What Inns Stage-coaches, Flying-coaches, Waggons and Carriers Come, and the Days They Go out. The Whole being very Useful for Ladies, Gentlemen, Clergymen, Merchants, Tradesmen, Coach-men, Chair-men, Car-men, Porters, Bailiffs, and Others (London, 1732), p. 361 s.nn. Robin hood alley [1], Robin hood alley [2]. Italic type as printed there.
  2. Anonymous. The Compleat Compting-House Companion: or, Young Merchant, or Tradesman's Sure Guide (London, 1763), p. 417 s.n. Robinhood alley.
  3. Anonymous, compil. The New Complete Guide to all Persons who have any Trade or Concern with the City of London, and Parts adjacent ([s.l], 1783), p. 59 s.n. Robin Hood alley.


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