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[[File:rh-helsby-garstonian-2009.jpg|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood in Helsby closed before 4 May 2009, when this photo was taken / [https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Gasrtonian, via Flickr.]]]
[[File:{{#var:Pnimage}}|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood, boarded up and ready for sale (and demolition) / Google Earth Street View, Aug. 2009.]]
[[File:rh-helsby-google-maps.jpg|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood, boarded up and ready for demolition / Google Earth Street View, August 2009.]]
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The first record I have found of the Robin Hood, until recently located on the corner of Chester Road and [[Lower Robin Hood Lane (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Lane]] in Helsby, is a 6" O.S. map of the area published in 1881, based on surveying done 1873-74. It is found on all the later maps listed below (see Maps section). The pub had closed by 4 May 2009, and the building has subsequently been demolished. It was located on the corner of Chester Road and Lower Robin Hood Lane<ref>[https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby].</ref>
 
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The Robin Hood in Helsby was located on the corner of Chester Road and [[Lower Robin Hood Lane (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Lane]]. In existence by 1844 it was closed by 4 May 2009.<ref>[https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby].</ref> Its name inspired those of several fields and streets in the immediate vicinity.
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=== Gazetteers ===
The earliest record of the pub known to IRHB is the 1844 Helsby tithe award, which lists the plot of land as "Public House & Gardens".<ref>1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 017, item 137 (subscription required).</ref> The owner was then a Henry Lowe, the occupier an Elizabeth Bromley, the area was listed as 1 rood and 6 perches ({{AcreRoodPerchToM2|0|1|6}} m<sup>2</sup>). Although the name of the pub is not cited in the tithe award, there can be no doubt that it was already then trading as the Robin Hood by 1844. Surrounding fields listed in the tithe award were named [[Higher Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Higher Robin Hood Field]], [[Lower Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Lower Robin Hood Field]] and [[Robin Hood Field (Helsby)|Robin Hood Field]] ''tout court'', while yet another was described as the "Field below Robin Hood".<ref>For the latter see 1844 tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 016, item 146 (subscription required).</ref> These names must have been inspired by that of the pub. It is obviously not credible that the fields should already have been named after Robin Hood and someone should then have decided to open a Robin Hood pub near the centre of their combined area.
 
In 1861 the publican was a Joseph Knight Potts; his wife was named Elizabeth.<ref>1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26 (subscription required).</ref> In 1881 Elizabeth Potts is listed as "Inn Keeper".<ref>1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34 (subscription required).</ref> In 1901 Joseph Potts was "Hotel Proprietor".<ref>1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29 (subscription required).</ref>
 
A row of semi-detached houses was under construction at the site of the pub in 2018 (see image in gallery below).{{PnItemQry}}
== Gazetteers ==
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311
* Not included in {{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}.
* Not included in {{:Dodgson, John McNeal 1970a}}.


=== Maps ===
== Maps ==
* 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (''c.'' 1874; surveyed ''c.'' 1872). No Copy in NLS
* [https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.2710&lon=-2.7715&layers=168&b=5 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced)
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114583042#zoom=4&lat=8622&lon=12235&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1898; rev. 1897)]
* [https://maps.nls.uk/view/114583045#zoom=4&lat=8863&lon=12506&layers=BT 25" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.6 (1935; rev. 1908)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341050#zoom=6&lat=7324&lon=7329&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII (1881; surveyed 1873-74)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341050#zoom=6&lat=7324&lon=7329&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII (1881; surveyed 1873-74)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.2714&lon=-2.7710&layers=171&b=1 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (1899; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced)
* [http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.2714&lon=-2.7710&layers=171&b=1 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (1899; rev. 1897)] (georeferenced)
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598733#zoom=5&lat=3015&lon=7109&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (1899; rev. 1897)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598730#zoom=5&lat=3211&lon=7201&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (1911; rev. 1908)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598730#zoom=5&lat=3211&lon=7201&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (1911; rev. 1908)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102191377#zoom=5&lat=3248&lon=7126&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (''c.'' 1936; rev. 1908)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102191377#zoom=5&lat=3248&lon=7126&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (''c.'' 1936; rev. 1908)]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598727#zoom=5&lat=3221&lon=7091&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (''c.'' 1944; rev. 1938).]
* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101598727#zoom=5&lat=3221&lon=7091&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Cheshire'' XXXII.NW (''c.'' 1944; rev. 1938).]


=== Background ===
== MS sources ==
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* 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 017, item 137
* Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], piece 05, sub-piece 199, sub-image 001, item 137
* 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26
* 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34
* 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ Genealogist.co.uk], Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29.
 
== Printed and web sources ==
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.]
* [https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstonian/3501778930/in/album-72157616699601259/ Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.]
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The site of the Robin Hood, Helsby.

[[File:|thumb|right|500px|The Robin Hood, boarded up and ready for sale (and demolition) / Google Earth Street View, Aug. 2009.]]

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-01-21. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-06-04.

The Robin Hood in Helsby was located on the corner of Chester Road and Lower Robin Hood Lane. In existence by 1844 it was closed by 4 May 2009.[1] Its name inspired those of several fields and streets in the immediate vicinity.

The earliest record of the pub known to IRHB is the 1844 Helsby tithe award, which lists the plot of land as "Public House & Gardens".[2] The owner was then a Henry Lowe, the occupier an Elizabeth Bromley, the area was listed as 1 rood and 6 perches (Template:AcreRoodPerchToM2 m2). Although the name of the pub is not cited in the tithe award, there can be no doubt that it was already then trading as the Robin Hood by 1844. Surrounding fields listed in the tithe award were named Higher Robin Hood Field, Lower Robin Hood Field and Robin Hood Field tout court, while yet another was described as the "Field below Robin Hood".[3] These names must have been inspired by that of the pub. It is obviously not credible that the fields should already have been named after Robin Hood and someone should then have decided to open a Robin Hood pub near the centre of their combined area.

In 1861 the publican was a Joseph Knight Potts; his wife was named Elizabeth.[4] In 1881 Elizabeth Potts is listed as "Inn Keeper".[5] In 1901 Joseph Potts was "Hotel Proprietor".[6]

A row of semi-detached houses was under construction at the site of the pub in 2018 (see image in gallery below).Template:PnItemQry

Gazetteers

Maps

MS sources

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  • 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 017, item 137
  • Accompanying map, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, piece 05, sub-piece 199, sub-image 001, item 137
  • 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26
  • 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34
  • 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29.

Printed and web sources

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Notes

  1. Flickr: Garstonian: The Robin Hood, Helsby.
  2. 1844 Tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 017, item 137 (subscription required).
  3. For the latter see 1844 tithe award for Helsby, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, piece 05, sub-piece 199, image 016, item 146 (subscription required).
  4. 1861 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 02599, Image 00187, Item 26 (subscription required).
  5. 1881 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 03519, Image 00017, Item 34 (subscription required).
  6. 1901 Census, Cheshire, online at the Genealogist.co.uk, Piece 03337, Image 00214, Item 29 (subscription required).


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