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Marian Lodge.

Marian Lodge, Little Gaddesden. Postcard published by Wm. F. Piggott, Leighton Buzzard, [1905 or earlier] / Hertfordshire Genealogy: Some other Houses in Little Gaddesden.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2017-09-22. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-04-05.

Marian Lodge in Little Gaddesden owes its name to the fact that it was "built by Lady Marian Alford" in the 1870s (see 1908 quortation below). It is unclear whether the name was also to some extent inspired by the proximity to the Robin Hood House in Little Gaddesden, but with the latter located just 2 km SE of the lodge many who did not know the history of the lodge must have seen the two names as connected.

Though the lodge was built in the 1870's, it is not clear if it was named Marian Lodge from the beginning. The postcard shown below, post-marked 1905, is therefore the earliest record I know of so far.Template:PnItemQry

Quotations

[1908:]
Following the high road north from Hemel Hempstead may be seen near the beginning of the village Robin Hood House, a large old house of timber and stucco. It was once the Robin Hood village public-house, but has been greatly added to, and is now the residence of Mr. Alexander Murray-Smith.

Further again is Marian Lodge, built by Lady Marian Alford some thirty years ago. It is now tenanted by Mrs. Denison, under whose care soft cloth is woven, some of which is sent yearly to the queen.^[1]

Gazetteers

Not included in Dobson, R. B., ed.; Taylor, J., ed. Rymes of Robyn Hood: an Introduction to the English Outlaw (London, 1976), pp. 293-311.

Sources

Page, William, ed. The Victoria History of Hertfordshire. Vol. II (The Victoria History of the Counties of England) (London, 1908), p. 144. Web version a British History Online.

Maps

Background

Wikipedia: Little Gaddesden.

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Notes

↑ Page, William, ed. The Victoria History of Hertfordshire. Vol. II (The Victoria History of the Counties of England) (London, 1908), p. 208.

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[1] Page, William, ed. The Victoria History of Hertfordshire. Vol. II (The Victoria History of the Counties of England) (London, 1908), p. 208.

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+Marian Lodge in Little Gaddesden owes its name to the fact that it was "built by Lady Marian Alford" in the 1870s (see 1908 quortation below). It is unclear whether the name was also to some extent inspired by the proximity to the [[Robin Hood House (Little Gaddesden)|Robin Hood House in Little Gaddesden]], but with the latter located just 2 km SE of the lodge many who did not know the history of the lodge must have seen the two names as connected.
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-[[File:RH_House_Little_Gaddesden.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Robin Hood House, once an inn &ndash; the Robin Hood &ndash; then a private residence, now a privately owned and run dementia care home (photo from [http://www.benslow-care-homes.co.uk/care_home/robin-hood-house/ company website]).]]
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-Robin Hood House was originally a village pub, the Robin Hood, but was subsequently converted into a private residence and greatly expanded. It now functions as a dementia care home, owned and run by Benslow Care Homes.
+Though the lodge was built in the 1870's, it is not clear if it was named Marian Lodge from the beginning. The postcard shown below, post-marked 1905, is therefore the earliest record I know of so far.{{PnItemQry}}
+== Quotations ==
+{{quote|[1908:]<br/>Following the high road north from Hemel Hempstead may be seen near the beginning of the village Robin Hood House, a large old house of timber and stucco. It was once the Robin Hood village public-house, but has been greatly added to, and is now the residence of Mr. Alexander Murray-Smith.<br/><br/>Further again is Marian Lodge, built by Lady Marian Alford some thirty years ago. It is now tenanted by Mrs. Denison, under whose care soft cloth is woven, some of which is sent yearly to the queen.<ref>{{:Page, William 1908a}}, p. 208.</ref>}}
+== Gazetteers ==
+* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
-As can be seen on the Google map of the county on the page on [[Hertfordshire place-names]], Robin Hood House is just outside the historical Hertford&shy;shire/Bucking&shy;ham&shy;shire border according to the boundary data provided by the [http://www.county-borders.co.uk/ Historic Counties Trust]. I follow the ''Victoria County History''which includes it in Hertfordshire (1908).<ref>{{:Page, William 1908a}}, p. 144. [http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43271  Web version a British History Online.]</ref> It is certainly now in Hertfordshire.<ref>[http://www.benslow-care-homes.co.uk/care_home/robin-hood-house Benslow Care Homes: Robin Hood House] (company website).</ref>
+== Sources ==
-=== Quotations ===
-{{quote|[1908:]<br/>Following the high road north from Hemel Hempstead may be seen near the beginning of the village Robin Hood House, a large old house of timber and stucco. It was once the Robin Hood village public-house, but has been greatly added to, and is now the residence of Mr. Alexander Murray-Smith.<ref>{{:Page, William 1908a}}, p. 208.</ref>}}
-<br/>
-{{quote|[1911:]<br/>Robin Hood House, originally an inn, stands at the end of the village, ¾ mile S. of the church. It is a two-storeyed building with attics, and is covered with cement; the roofs are tiled. It is probably of the 17th century, but the only old features now visible are some beams in the ceilings and some flat, shaped balusters in a staircase leading from the first
-floor to the attics.<br/>
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Condition&mdash;Good.<ref>{{:Gardner, Herbert Colstoun 1911a}}, p. 144.</ref>}}<!--
-=== Allusions ===
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-=== Gazetteers ===
-* {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, p. 298.
-=== Sources ===
-* {{:Gardner, Herbert Colstoun 1911a}}, p. 208.
 * {{:Page, William 1908a}}, p. 144. [http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43271  Web version a British History Online.]
-=== Maps ===
+== Maps ==
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102343319#zoom=6&lat=5228&lon=3735&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Hertfordshire'' XXVI (1883-84; surveyed 1877-78)]
+* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340163#zoom=7&lat=1079&lon=9748&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Buckinghamshire'' XXX (1884; surveyed 1877-79)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101579355#zoom=5&lat=5401&lon=3316&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Hertfordshire'' XXVI (1899; surveyed 1897)]
+* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101449723#zoom=5&lat=1628&lon=2091&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Buckinghamshire'' XXX.Se (1900; rev. 1897-98)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101568746#zoom=5&lat=5766&lon=3421&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Bedfordshire'' XXXIV.SW (1901; rev. 1900)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.8080&lon=-0.5578&layers=171&b=1 6" O.S. map '' Bedfordshire'' XXXIV.SW (1901; rev. 1900)] (georeferenced)
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101568743#zoom=5&lat=5650&lon=3375&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Bedfordshire'' XXXIV.SW (1925; rev. 1922)]
+* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101449720#zoom=5&lat=1729&lon=2286&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Buckinghamshire'' XXX.SE (1928; rev. 1928)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101568740#zoom=5&lat=5589&lon=3435&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Bedfordshire'' XXXIV.SW (''c.'' 1948; rev. 1928)]
+* [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101449717#zoom=5&lat=1720&lon=2157&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Buckinghamshire'' XXX.SE (''c.'' 1950; rev. 1946)]
 * [http://maps.nls.uk/view/101568737#zoom=5&lat=5559&lon=3520&layers=BT 6" O.S. map ''Bedfordshire'' XXXIV.SW (1950; rev. 1946).]
-=== Background ===
+== Background ==
-* [http://www.benslow-care-homes.co.uk/care_home/robin-hood-house Benslow Care Homes: Robin Hood House] (company website).
+* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Gaddesden Wikipedia: Little Gaddesden.]
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-=== Also see ===
+== Notes ==
-* [[Places named Robin Hood's House]]
-* [[Public houses named after Robin Hood]].
-=== Notes ===
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