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[[File:{{#var:Image}}|thumb|right|500px|The two adjacent areas outlined in red were once the Little Johns, those in yellow the Great Johns / Google Earth Street View.]]<div class="no-img">
[[File:{{#var:Image}}|thumb|right|500px|The two adjacent areas outlined in red were once the Little Johns, those in yellow the Great Johns / Google Earth Street View.]]<div class="no-img">
<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-02-17. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p>
<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-02-17. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p>
Two adjacent plots of land south of present Vicarage Lane and Jaffe Road in Ilford, just north of the railroad tracks, were known as the Little Johns according to the 1844 tithe award of the civil parish of Barking. Their combined area was {{AcreRoodPerchToM2|4|1|44}} m<sup>2</sup>. Their owner/occupier was a John Philpot, their state of cultivation is listed as "Arable".<ref>Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1623 and 1623 a (subscription required); [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (subscription required).</ref> The two closes together formed a rectangle with its long side oriented west&ndash;east. The field immediately west of the Little Johns, also owned by John Philpot, was a rectangle with its long side oriented north&ndash;south that was bisected by the railroad tracks, its two parts being known collectively as the Great Johns.<ref>Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1621, 1622 (subscription required); also see [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (dated 1922) (subscription required).</ref> The rough contours of the closes are drawn in on one of the maps below, those of the Little Johns in red, those of the Great Johns in yellow. A [[Robinhood Meadow (Ilford)|Robinhood Meadow]] existed just ''c.'' 500 m to the southwest.
Two adjacent plots of land south of present Vicarage Lane and Jaffe Road in Ilford, just north of the railroad tracks, were known as the Little Johns according to the 1844 tithe award of the civil parish of Barking. Their combined area was {{AcresRoodsPerchesToM2|4|1|44}} m<sup>2</sup>. Their owner/occupier was a John Philpot, their state of cultivation is listed as "Arable".<ref>Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1623 and 1623 a (£); [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (£).</ref> The two closes together formed a rectangle with its long side oriented west&ndash;east. The field immediately west of the Little Johns, also owned by John Philpot, was a rectangle with its long side oriented north&ndash;south that was bisected by the railroad tracks, its two parts being known collectively as the Great Johns.<ref>Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1621, 1622 (£); also see [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (dated 1922) (£).</ref> The rough contours of the closes are drawn in on one of the maps below, those of the Little Johns in red, those of the Great Johns in yellow. A [[Robinhood Meadow (Ilford)|Robinhood Meadow]] existed just ''c.'' 500 m to the southwest.


The two pieces are listed in the tithe award as "Part of Little Johns" (eastern piece) and "Part of Little John's" (western piece). The Great Johns are listed as "Great John's" and "Part of Great John's" in 1844, but a later apportionment, dated 1922, refers to one of them as "Part of Great Johns". {{PnItemQry}}
The two pieces are listed in the tithe award as "Part of Little Johns" (eastern piece) and "Part of Little John's" (western piece). The Great Johns are listed as "Great John's" and "Part of Great John's" in 1844, but a later apportionment, dated 1922, refers to one of them as "Part of Great Johns". {{PlaceNamesItemAllusionsAndRecords}}
== Gazetteers ==
== Gazetteers ==
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.


== MS sources ==
== MS sources ==
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (subscription required)
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (£)
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (subscription required)
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (£)
* Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 20, Sub-Image 001 (subscription required).
* Accompanying map, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 20, Sub-Image 001 (£).


== Maps ==
== Maps ==
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== Background ==
== Background ==
=== MSS ===
=== MSS ===
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (subscription required)
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (£)
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (subscription required).
* Tithe award for Barking, online at the [https://www.thegenealogist.com Genealogist], Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (£).


=== Web ===
=== Web ===
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford Wikipedia: Ilford.]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford Wikipedia: Ilford.]


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== Notes ==
== Notes ==
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Latest revision as of 03:49, 12 February 2021

Locality
Coordinate 51.5647, 0.0856
Adm. div. Essex, now Greater London
Vicinity S. of Vicarage Lane, N. of Jaffe Road
Type Area
Interest Robin Hood name
Status Defunct
First Record 1844
A.k.a. Little John's
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The site of the Little Johns.
The two adjacent areas outlined in red were once the Little Johns, those in yellow the Great Johns / Google Earth Street View.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-02-17. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2021-02-12.

Two adjacent plots of land south of present Vicarage Lane and Jaffe Road in Ilford, just north of the railroad tracks, were known as the Little Johns according to the 1844 tithe award of the civil parish of Barking. Their combined area was 18312.03 m2. Their owner/occupier was a John Philpot, their state of cultivation is listed as "Arable".[1] The two closes together formed a rectangle with its long side oriented west–east. The field immediately west of the Little Johns, also owned by John Philpot, was a rectangle with its long side oriented north–south that was bisected by the railroad tracks, its two parts being known collectively as the Great Johns.[2] The rough contours of the closes are drawn in on one of the maps below, those of the Little Johns in red, those of the Great Johns in yellow. A Robinhood Meadow existed just c. 500 m to the southwest.

The two pieces are listed in the tithe award as "Part of Little Johns" (eastern piece) and "Part of Little John's" (western piece). The Great Johns are listed as "Great John's" and "Part of Great John's" in 1844, but a later apportionment, dated 1922, refers to one of them as "Part of Great Johns".

Gazetteers

MS sources

  • Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (£)
  • Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (£)
  • Accompanying map, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 20, Sub-Image 001 (£).

Maps

Maps of the area; the Little Johns not labelled.

Background

MSS

  • Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098 (£)
  • Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (£).

Web

Also see


Notes

  1. Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1623 and 1623 a (£); Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 099 (£).
  2. Tithe award for Barking, online at the Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 098, Nos. 1621, 1622 (£); also see Genealogist, Piece 12, Sub-Piece 020, Image 232 (dated 1922) (£).