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Little John Greave is recorded in a 1767 enclosure award as a field-name in Sheldon (Bakewell, Derbyshire). "Greave" is from OE ''gr&#483;fe'': grove, copse, thicket.<ref>{{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. III, pp. 681, 730.</ref> It is perhaps worth noting that "John a Greaves" occurs as a field-name in 1830 in Barlborough, 31 km ESE of Sheldon,<ref>''Ibid.'', pt. II, p. 202.</ref> but apart from the (partial) similarity of name there is nothing to suggest a connection between the two localities. With access to the Sheldon enclosure award it should be possible to locate Little John Greave. Pending this, the coordinates I cite here are simply those for Sheldon, the parish within which the "greave" was located. Tithe awards for Sheldon, Ashford in the Water, Brushfield, Great Longstone, Monyash, Taddington and Prestcliffe have been checked; they do not include Little John Greave.  
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<p id="byline">By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2014-10-15. Revised by {{#realname:{{REVISIONUSER}}}}, {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}.</p><div class="no-img">
Little John Greave is recorded in a 1767 enclosure award as a field-name in Sheldon (Bakewell, Derbyshire). "Greave" is from OE ''gr&#483;fe'': grove, copse, thicket.<ref>{{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. III, pp. 681, 730.</ref> It is perhaps worth noting that "John a Greaves" occurs as a field-name in 1830 in Barlborough, 31 km ESE of Sheldon,<ref>''Ibid.'', pt. II, p. 202.</ref> but apart from the (partial) similarity of name there is nothing to suggest a connection between the two localities. With access to the Sheldon enclosure award it should be possible to locate Little John Greave. Pending this, the coordinates I cite here are simnply those for Sheldon, the parish within which the "greave" was located. According to the editor of the English Place-Name Society's volumes on Derbyshire, this is the only Robin Hood-related field-name found in the county.<ref>{{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. I, p. 165; III, 760.</ref> This is not true. His own work also lists [[Little John (Tibshelf)|'Little John' as a field-name in Tibshelf (1846)]].


'Greave' is a quite common element of Derbyshire place- and field-names.<ref>See for instance ''ibid.'', pt. II, pp. 242, 253, 261, 267, 283, 290 (''bis''), 296, 308, 313, 326 (''bis''), 348, 350, 356, 375 (''bis''), 377, 380 (''bis''), 386, 387 (''bis''), 396, 398 (''bis''),  405 (''bis''), 407. No doubt many are also to be found in the other volumes of this work.</ref>
According to the editor of the English Place-Name Society's volumes on Derbyshire, this is the only Robin Hood-related field-name found in the county.<ref>{{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. I, p. 165; III, 760.</ref> This is not true. His own work also lists [[Little John (Tibshelf)|'Little John' as a field-name in Tibshelf (1846)]]. 'Greave' is a quite common element of Derbyshire place- and field-names.<ref>See for instance ''ibid.'', pt. II, pp. 242, 253, 261, 267, 283, 290 (''bis''), 296, 308, 313, 326 (''bis''), 348, 350, 356, 375 (''bis''), 377, 380 (''bis''), 386, 387 (''bis''), 396, 398 (''bis''),  405 (''bis''), 407. No doubt many are also to be found in the other volumes of this work.</ref>
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=== Gazetteers ===
== Gazetteers ==
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.
* Not included in {{:Dobson, Richard Barrie 1976a}}, pp. 293-311.


=== Sources ===
== Sources ==
* {{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. I, p. 165; II, 202; III, 681, 760.
* {{:Cameron, Kenneth 1959a}}, pt. I, p. 165; II, 202; III, 681, 760.
=== Background ===
 
== Background ==
* [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/enclosure.htm National Archives: Enclosure awards.]
* [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/enclosure.htm National Archives: Enclosure awards.]
=== Also see ===
 
* [[Places named after Little John]]
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=== Notes ===
 
== Notes ==
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Location of Sheldon in which parish Little John Greave was located.

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By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2014-10-15. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-02-16.

Little John Greave is recorded in a 1767 enclosure award as a field-name in Sheldon (Bakewell, Derbyshire). "Greave" is from OE grǣfe: grove, copse, thicket.[1] It is perhaps worth noting that "John a Greaves" occurs as a field-name in 1830 in Barlborough, 31 km ESE of Sheldon,[2] but apart from the (partial) similarity of name there is nothing to suggest a connection between the two localities. With access to the Sheldon enclosure award it should be possible to locate Little John Greave. Pending this, the coordinates I cite here are simply those for Sheldon, the parish within which the "greave" was located. Tithe awards for Sheldon, Ashford in the Water, Brushfield, Great Longstone, Monyash, Taddington and Prestcliffe have been checked; they do not include Little John Greave.

According to the editor of the English Place-Name Society's volumes on Derbyshire, this is the only Robin Hood-related field-name found in the county.[3] This is not true. His own work also lists 'Little John' as a field-name in Tibshelf (1846). 'Greave' is a quite common element of Derbyshire place- and field-names.[4] Template:PnItemQry

Gazetteers

Sources

Background

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Notes

  1. Cameron, Kenneth. The Place-Names of Derbyshire (English Place-Name Society, vols. XXVII-XXIX) (Cambridge, 1959), pt. III, pp. 681, 730.
  2. Ibid., pt. II, p. 202.
  3. Cameron, Kenneth. The Place-Names of Derbyshire (English Place-Name Society, vols. XXVII-XXIX) (Cambridge, 1959), pt. I, p. 165; III, 760.
  4. See for instance ibid., pt. II, pp. 242, 253, 261, 267, 283, 290 (bis), 296, 308, 313, 326 (bis), 348, 350, 356, 375 (bis), 377, 380 (bis), 386, 387 (bis), 396, 398 (bis), 405 (bis), 407. No doubt many are also to be found in the other volumes of this work.


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