1291 - John son of Germanus le petit

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Record
Date 1291
Topic Nicholas son of Brian, John son of Germanus le Petit, Robert Sauvage, Henry le Aumbleur and William Fox, all of Nottinghamshire, accused of killing Giles de Pavely.
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Nottinghamshire.

By Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2018-11-16. Revised by Henrik Thiil Nielsen, 2019-04-05.

Record

[30 Aug. 1291:]
Nicholas son of Brian, John son of Germanus le Petit, Robert Sauvage, Henry le Aumbleur and William Fox, which William de Lavinton lately laid before the king but did not prosecute for the death of Giles de Pavely his kinsman whereby the said appeal remains at the king's suit pending there undetermined to their damage. And the sheriff of Nottingham has been commanded to have the said appellees before the said commissioners and to summon jurors, &c.[1]

Source notes

Membrane 5d of the Patent Roll for 19 Edward I. Marginal note: "30. Aug. Grantham"; the form in the MS being apparently "Graham".[2]

IRHB comments

In the late 13th century, surnames had not yet become fixed. John son of Germanus le Petit might on some other occasion have been referred to as John le Petit, had he or someone who needed to refer to him in writing regarded his father's "nick surname" as a heritable surname. The involvement of the sheriff of Nottingham tells us that John son of Germanus and the other killers of Giles de Pavely were Nottinghamshire men. The fact that Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire formed one bailiwick in this period does not alter that conclusion. The record would have referred to the sheriff of Derby(shire), if it had been concerned with Derbyshire men. The sheriff at the time was William de Chaddewich or de Chaworth.[3]

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